George Bush: The Ten Year Difference - Page 5 - Mercedes-Benz Forum

Reply
 
LinkBack Thread Tools Display Modes
post #41 of 70 (permalink) Old 07-14-2006, 05:01 PM
Administratoris Emeritus
 
GeeS's Avatar
 
Date registered: Aug 2002
Vehicle: 2021 SL770
Location: Fountain Hills, AZ
Posts: 44,915
Mentioned: 2 Post(s)
Quoted: 591 Post(s)
Quote:
Originally Posted by DaveN007
A large, powerful federal government is not a conservative ideal and Bush fails to meet the conservative standard by that measure.

Tax cuts do not go hand in hand with smaller government. Tax cuts lead to INCREASED REVENUES. During the Reagan years, that money was spent on the military and social spending. The size of government increased.
That's true, but Reagan had an agenda for America (one that was not a secret personal agenda, like our current POTUS) and a breathtaking financial mess to clean up. In part, he looked so good because his predecessor was so bad.

"If spending money you don't have is the height of stupidity, borrowing money to give it away is the height of insanity." -- anon
GeeS is offline  
Sponsored Links
Advertisement
 
post #42 of 70 (permalink) Old 07-14-2006, 05:09 PM
BenzWorld Elite
 
Date registered: Apr 2006
Posts: 1,495
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Quote:
Originally Posted by GermanStar
I've said it before and I'll say it again -- there is nothing worse than a fiscal liberal/social conservative -- it's the worst of both worlds...
I agree to a point.

The problem: Every Democrat at every level of government is chomping at the bit to take SIGNIFICANTLY more money from my family as soon as they get the chance.

A vote for GWB was a defensive vote for me.

I have to support him because the alternative is too financially devastating for my family. Democrats in CA want to increase my taxes by an amount that would wipe out my ability to pay for my kid's education, and the Democrats want to eliminate the SS cap...which would tax me to the tune of 60% of my mortgage each month.`All while they curse me. Despite the fact that I am the source of the money they use to buy votes.

He was the least fiscally liberal alternative.
DaveN007 is offline  
post #43 of 70 (permalink) Old 07-14-2006, 05:17 PM
BenzWorld Elite
 
Date registered: Apr 2006
Posts: 1,495
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Quote:
Originally Posted by GermanStar
That's true, but Reagan had an agenda for America (one that was not a secret personal agenda, like our current POTUS) and a breathtaking financial mess to clean up. In part, he looked so good because his predecessor was so bad.
What do you think his "secret personal agenda" is?

I see him as simply being out of his league. The linked video shows how he could handle the governor gig, but POTUS? It is killing the guy.

Financial mess?

He is a freaking baby boomer. What do you expect. At age 41, I have been showing up after the party was over with a broom in hand my entire life.

At least Clinton left lacy underwear hanging from light fixtures.

As the boomers "tune out" of the economy, those of us left working will be targeted for tax increases to support swelling SS roles. At the same time boomers sell their homes and pull money out of the stock market.

Triple threat. Game over.
DaveN007 is offline  
post #44 of 70 (permalink) Old 07-14-2006, 05:24 PM
Administratoris Emeritus
 
GeeS's Avatar
 
Date registered: Aug 2002
Vehicle: 2021 SL770
Location: Fountain Hills, AZ
Posts: 44,915
Mentioned: 2 Post(s)
Quoted: 591 Post(s)
Quote:
Originally Posted by DaveN007
What do you think his "secret personal agenda" is?
I don't know -- we could speculate about it from now 'til doomsday (and many of us have), but I still haven't heard a reason for invading Iraq from GW's lips that doesn't set off my bullshit meter..... To clarify, I believe that there is always one clear, compelling reason to go to war -- always -- we may or may not agree with it, but it's there on the table for debate. Not so with Iraq. I find that very disturbing...

"If spending money you don't have is the height of stupidity, borrowing money to give it away is the height of insanity." -- anon
GeeS is offline  
post #45 of 70 (permalink) Old 07-14-2006, 07:41 PM
Cruise Control
 
Zeitgeist's Avatar
 
Date registered: Sep 2004
Vehicle: '87 300TD/'90 300D/'94 Quattro/'89 Vanagon TDI/'01 EV Weekender VR6
Location: Cascadia
Posts: 51,730
Mentioned: 6 Post(s)
Quoted: 1426 Post(s)
Lifetime Premium Member
They say children are very perceptive

Zeitgeist is offline  
post #46 of 70 (permalink) Old 07-14-2006, 07:47 PM
BenzWorld Elite
 
Date registered: Sep 2004
Vehicle: 95 E300
Location: Inside my head
Posts: 36,850
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Quoted: 392 Post(s)
O-i-l.

But then, Dave's points were unaddressed. Care to take a stab at them.

Anybody?

B
Botnst is offline  
post #47 of 70 (permalink) Old 07-14-2006, 08:03 PM
BenzWorld Elite
 
mzsmbs's Avatar
 
Date registered: Sep 2004
Vehicle: 1972 Mercedes 250 (/8) W114/M130
Location: on a high bank of a creek
Posts: 7,296
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Quoted: 1 Post(s)
Quote:
Originally Posted by DaveN007
A large, powerful federal government is not a conservative ideal and Bush fails to meet the conservative standard by that measure.

Tax cuts do not go hand in hand with smaller government. Tax cuts lead to INCREASED REVENUES. During the Reagan years, that money was spent on the military and social spending. The size of government increased.

trkle down reagonomics? oh please.. how many years did it take to dig out of that mess?

tax cuts go hand in hand with smaller spending by the gov.. once again not the case today..

so, where is the compassion part of this sharlatin? is sending our young men to die and killing thousands and thousands of innocent once soverign iraqis the compassion he spoke so fondly of when running for office of the president of USA? I've seen way more compassion out of Iraqis then i have so far in 6 years out of the goon in charge.



in political asylum
mzsmbs is offline  
post #48 of 70 (permalink) Old 07-14-2006, 08:04 PM
BenzWorld Elite
 
mzsmbs's Avatar
 
Date registered: Sep 2004
Vehicle: 1972 Mercedes 250 (/8) W114/M130
Location: on a high bank of a creek
Posts: 7,296
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Quoted: 1 Post(s)
Quote:
Originally Posted by DaveN007
You failed the test.

actually i passed my man.



in political asylum
mzsmbs is offline  
post #49 of 70 (permalink) Old 07-14-2006, 08:08 PM
BenzWorld Elite
 
mzsmbs's Avatar
 
Date registered: Sep 2004
Vehicle: 1972 Mercedes 250 (/8) W114/M130
Location: on a high bank of a creek
Posts: 7,296
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Quoted: 1 Post(s)
Quote:
Originally Posted by Botnst
O-i-l.



B
i thought that too at one point in time but that was long time ago..

$$$$$$$ and powa' is the real reason.



in political asylum
mzsmbs is offline  
post #50 of 70 (permalink) Old 07-14-2006, 08:20 PM
Administratoris Emeritus
 
GeeS's Avatar
 
Date registered: Aug 2002
Vehicle: 2021 SL770
Location: Fountain Hills, AZ
Posts: 44,915
Mentioned: 2 Post(s)
Quoted: 591 Post(s)
Quote:
Originally Posted by Botnst
O-i-l.
But since he wasn't man enough to say "o-i-l" before or since the invasion, it remains a "secret personal agenda".

"If spending money you don't have is the height of stupidity, borrowing money to give it away is the height of insanity." -- anon
GeeS is offline  
Sponsored Links
Advertisement
 
Reply

  Mercedes-Benz Forum > General Mercedes-Benz Forums > Off-Topic

Quick Reply
Message:
Options

Register Now



In order to be able to post messages on the Mercedes-Benz Forum forums, you must first register.
Please enter your desired user name, your email address and other required details in the form below.

User Name:
Password
Please enter a password for your user account. Note that passwords are case-sensitive.

Password:


Confirm Password:
Email Address
Please enter a valid email address for yourself.

Email Address:
OR

Log-in











  • Currently Active Users Viewing This Thread: 1 (0 members and 1 guests)
     
    Thread Tools
    Show Printable Version Show Printable Version
    Email this Page Email this Page
    Display Modes
    Linear Mode Linear Mode



    Posting Rules  
    You may post new threads
    You may post replies
    You may not post attachments
    You may not edit your posts

    BB code is On
    Smilies are On
    [IMG] code is On
    HTML code is Off
    Trackbacks are On
    Pingbacks are On
    Refbacks are On

     

    Title goes here

    close
    video goes here
    description goes here. Read Full Story
    For the best viewing experience please update your browser to Google Chrome