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Ah yes, Kansas. Follow the yellow cake road.

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Why must you resort to trifling buffoonery here? This concerns a rather dry matter of site policy, not moral outrage at foreign policy excesses or whatnot.
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McBear, what are you about, now? Of course it is fair to talk about anything here. You want to talk about whatever you wish, that's fine with me. So talk.

I am intrigued by Z going-on with his deeply offended sense of righteousness as though some moral outrage has occurred and is doing it from a safe distance. The man appears to have a safely circumscribed concept of honor. He fails to take his moral stand in the face of that which he finds obnoxious and offensive and instead, comes for succor among people of a like mind. It is typical, however.

Hope that helps you understand. If not, do me the courtesy of addressing me directly with your questions.

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I was actually questioning why some folks did not think it was an appropriate conversation here on OT and I think that it is very appropriate as I hate to see any board censor a word or a thought just because a mod does not think it is 'right'. If, as Z posted, this board stopped you or JHawk from posting a phrase or certain support for Bush or an idea, you would understand the surprise and maybe bitch about it on another board like Z has.

I did not direct my original comments at anyone as they were just a warmup since I have been off for a couple of days and needed to get loosened up before coming back in. I was down your way for two days at NO NAS. I still can't get used to 90 by 8am.

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I was actually questioning why some folks did not think it was an appropriate conversation here on OT and I think that it is very appropriate as I hate to see any board censor a word or a thought just because a mod does not think it is 'right'. If, as Z posted, this board stopped you or JHawk from posting a phrase or certain support for Bush or an idea, you would understand the surprise and maybe bitch about it on another board like Z has.

I did not direct my original comments at anyone as they were just a warmup since I have been off for a couple of days and needed to get loosened up before coming back in. I was down your way for two days at NO NAS. I still can't get used to 90 by 8am.
Ah, I understand. It was the use of my handle in your post during a bit of back-and-forth that got my attention.

I've been working on some time-series mapping projects in the Barataria, which is just off the runway at Callender Field. Mostly work from an airboat when I've been surveying or ground-truthing, which I haven't done in a couple of years. I do fly over the area in our floatplane. The hand-off to Callender is one of those transitions that is interesting in a small plane at low altitude. They're always been very accomodating, except immediately post 9/11 when they were kind of pissy.

The recent hurricanes caused tremendous retreat of the marsh in that area. F-14's doing touch-and-go's have scared the spit outta me. Ever since I was a kid the USN has tried to close that place and the Support Activity nearby. Powerful forces in Congress seem to protect it all from harm. Probably a confluence of several heavily Democratic voting districts in a pro-military state.

Coincidentally, that was my final duty station for a month as my ship went to the Med. I took a transfer from NOB. NOLA was the best duty I ever had for just plain fun, but it was a nowhere place if you wanted to be a career sailor.

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Now would you say that a customer and a company is analogous to a citizen and his country? I think that fails on several grounds. First, a closer analogy would be stockholder is to company as citizen is to country. A customer is more closely analogous to a visiting alien. Legal aliens have some of the rights and privileges of citizenship, but certainly not all. For example, citizens and stockholders may take an active role in changing laws or rules while aliens and customers generally may not.

Do you see where I'm going with this?
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I do and the analogy of a customer is a good one. Most companies view the customer as a visiting alien. If he remains........fine.........if not.......well so be it. My latest example of this behavior is painfully reinforced during my recent visit to Home Depot.

However, as a practical matter, a citizen of a country, or a stockholder of a corporation (with 100 shares) has, effectively, the same amount of clout with respect to changing the rules as the customer of a corporation or a visitor to a website. We all can complain bitterly regarding specific policies that we are not fond of on a website, or in a corporation, or in a government for that matter. Without substanstial support from others who think like we do, our net effect is a big zero.

So, although my analogy might be technically incorrect, the effect is the same. If you don't like your country, your corporation, or you internet website, you're free to leave it, or you're free to complain bitterly about it............your choice.

I remain a bit perplexed as to your laissez-faire attitude with respect to the website, but your passionate responses when confronted with government polices that you are not in agreement. The end result is largely the same.

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Well, amazing what a short and well written note can effect..................

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Type "Merkin" into a post over there, and your response will be the deleted stars of oblivion. It's still a profoundly bizarre policy, but at least the threats of eternal banishment and damnation are no longer part and parcel. Hopefully that was a learning experience for all involved. Let us now bow our heads in prayer...
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