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I think that if it is going to happen, 08 will be the best chance for three or four parties at the big dance even with gerrymandering. There is too much conflict on the fringes of both sides. Whoever owns the middle in the major party should get the trophy with a minority of votes.
Come on guys... Who do you want: the green party, the libertarians, Perot, or what???

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Come on guys... Who do you want: the green party, the libertarians, Perot, or what???
No Perot, please. Depending on who gets the Republican nod there could be an ultra-con or mod-con on the right and again depending on how the usual seven dwarfs do during the primaries we could get either a mod or fringe left party.

You may be correct that the Green could catch on if it would gather at least one other strong plank. This cycle is looking like the E's to me. Energy, Environment, Ethics, Economy. Time will tell.

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It all depends on who manipulates the public perception most effectively concerning Iraq. the committed 35% of voters on either side won't change their vote even if the anti-Christ were to reveal which side he was on for election. The most they would ever do is not vote rather than vote for the 'other' side.

That leaves the 30% muddled-middle that is swayed and buffeted by the sights and sounds of whatever whimsy enters their low-density cranial cavity. That's who the political adverts and posturing are aimed at cajoling to move just a wee bit in their direction. Look for adverts heavy in emotional arguments and microscopically thin in rational analysis and argument.

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It all depends on who manipulates the public perception most effectively concerning Iraq. the committed 35% of voters on either side won't change their vote even if the anti-Christ were to reveal which side he was on for election. The most they would ever do is not vote rather than vote for the 'other' side.

That leaves the 30% muddled-middle that is swayed and buffeted by the sights and sounds of whatever whimsy enters their low-density cranial cavity. That's who the political adverts and posturing are aimed at cajoling to move just a wee bit in their direction. Look for adverts heavy in emotional arguments and microscopically thin in rational analysis and argument.

"My husband's opponent runs a crackhouse but my husband can sometimes heal the sick with a touch of his gentle hand on the hurt of a child."
Bot, clarity please, did you say that the commited 35% on each side will not change their vote even if a better candidate is on the other side [they would just not vote] and the 30% muddled middle [that's me I guess] is swayed by pretty pictures and cool media? That pretty much leaves the number of thinking voters at 0%. Was that the intended comment or did I miss something which is possible at 2am.

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Bot, clarity please, did you say that the commited 35% on each side will not change their vote even if a better candidate is on the other side [they would just not vote] and the 30% muddled middle [that's me I guess] is swayed by pretty pictures and cool media? That pretty much leaves the number of thinking voters at 0%. Was that the intended comment or did I miss something which is possible at 2am.
35% + 35% +30% = 100%

Yep, you and me and the other 30% are muddled, according to the zealots on either side.

Maybe it would be less painful if we looked at it from our perspective. We are the thoughtful people unswayed by party politics who do not let hot emotion and foolish party politics dictate for whom we vote. We carefully analyze each bit of information and derive a position of thoughtful reflection and astute insight.

It's all a matter of perspective.

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It all depends on who manipulates the public perception most effectively concerning Iraq. the committed 35% of voters on either side won't change their vote even if the anti-Christ were to reveal which side he was on for election. The most they would ever do is not vote rather than vote for the 'other' side.

That leaves the 30% muddled-middle that is swayed and buffeted by the sights and sounds of whatever whimsy enters their low-density cranial cavity. That's who the political adverts and posturing are aimed at cajoling to move just a wee bit in their direction. Look for adverts heavy in emotional arguments and microscopically thin in rational analysis and argument.

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Ok, let me add something on an intellectual level. Go fuck yourself, you stupid turd.
I guess that means the gloves are off. What I find so remarkable is that any time someone tries to engage a liberal in a respectful way, yet challenges their statements or beliefs, the liberal will almost certainly respond with a verbal attack against them.

It's like watching a tiny, angry dog get backed into a corner - it starts to bark most ferociously when it realizes it's been had and is out of options. It's so easy though...that's what makes it so much fun.

Anyway, DBP, congratulations on perpetuating the theorem that states "no person who has ever truly, openly thought about the world around them, could possibly be a liberal". I eagerly await your next witticism...instead of searching through Mr. Dictionary for something more intelligent than "turd" to call me, try reading this.
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I think you attacked him first. One thing about engaging conservatives is they never take responsibilty for anything.
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