Originally Posted by DaveN007
That is what Stalin said about our efforts to restore order in post-WWII Germany.
"Were-wolf" brigades of Nazi loyalists were killing German "collaborators" who worked with American officials for years. Thousands died.
Iraq will be just fine.
I remember vivdly the Soviet communist sympathizers that demanded unilateral disarmament in the US. They came to my high school and told us how much better off the Soviet Union was. How they donated sleeping bags to the homeless in NYC.
Originally Posted by DaveN007
Facts can't possibly persuade you. But I post this in response to your challenge. A thoughtful person would need to follow-up with the noted works at the bottom to gain a real understanding.
The college professor who came to MY HIGHSCHOOL (try following a thought from beginning to end) CALLED HIMSELF a Soviet marxist-leninist, as did many who supported unilateral disarmament and the nuclear freeze movement in the US in the late 1970's.
You still have not made a single intelligent point.
I will assume that this is because you are 14 and will cut you some slack.
Your a total dipshit, man - you don't even read the crap you post to see if it refutes your own argument. This is from your own link:
"These illusions came to an embarrasing end in late April, when three German soldiers crossed the Elbe near Magdeburg and surrendered to the Allies, one of which was Leiutenant-General Kurt Dittmar. When asked about the Alpine Redoubt at his debriefing, Dittmar laughed and called it "...a romantic dream. It's a myth". Although initially sceptical, SHAEF soon came to accept the truth of his words. Meanwhile, Stalin steamrollered his way towards Berlin.
The Werewolves were largely unsuccesful due to the lack of the central command structure that the Allies and Propagandists attributed to them erroneously. Bormann and Goebbels talked as if they in some way controlled Werewolf's activities; the fact of the matter was, however, that only Prutzmann excercised any kind of central control over the organisation, and the resources he had at his dispoal were insufficient to establish the kind of support network the organisation needed. When Schloss Hulchrath was overran in April, 1945, Prutzmann moved to Mecklenberg, and Werewolf effectively ceased to exist as an organisation.
Facing capture and execution at the hands of the advancing Allies, Prutzmann was then to commit suicide in May, 1945."
Since the Germans surrendered in May of 45, how is it that the Werewolfs were able to inflicte thousands of casualities while the Americans occupied post war Germany, as you asserted in your earlier post? According to what you just posted, they disintegrated as an organization at the same time the rest of Nazi Germany did. Your earlier post claims we fought a protracted guerilla war with them, which we supposedly won. Your whole argument has less substance as air - you have still given us zero facts, to support this fantasy, and instead give us some weird shit off a gaming website that refutes your own argument. I'll give you a fact - a fact I know because I bothered to actually educate myself by reading a few real history books instead of listening to some talk show moron fill my head with lies. Here it is: there was no post war resistance in either Germany or Japan, for one basic reason: the people in those countries would not support them. You want to see what the local populaci were doing when their fascist rulers fell into their hands?
In order for a successful guerilla war to take place, the guerillas must have the support of the people, who supply them and hide them, as is the current case in Iraq.
The whole point of this rightwing lie is to give Americans the impression that the criminal occupation of Iraq, which is more like Hilter's occupation of Poland than it will ever be of Post-war Germany, is some how just a normal phase. It's a total lie spread by rightwing talk show hosts, and drooling idiots such as yourself swallow it hook line and sinker. There is NO moral equivalence between the brutal occupation of Iraq and the occupation of Europe after 1945, and there damn sure isn't any historical equivelance either. If you're looking for them, try "Poland 1938".
And don't give me that "follow up to gain real understanding". What a bunch of bullshit. If you can't make your argument, spare us the fucking mysteries. Here is an actual article from a real website, showing another Bush stooge pushing this pack of lies:
As to your second claim, you claimed the schools were being overrun by Soviets peddling blankets to the poor. Now, we get some fucking teacher you have, which you now assure us called himself a "Soviet Marxist-Leninist". I'm sure he did. I bet he was a one-man Soviet fucking revolution.
For anyone who wants to read the actual truth: