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ok, one more time........
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Recall that earlier generations faced down fascism and communism not just with missiles and tanks, but with sturdy alliances and enduring convictions. They understood that our power alone cannot protect us, nor does it entitle us to do as we please. Instead, they knew that our power grows through its prudent use; our security emanates from the justness of our cause, the force of our example, the tempering qualities of humility and restraint.

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Don't forget the camera when you go hang-gliding tomorrow...
Or when you stumble onto a Maui farmers special crop and fall into a pit of Pongee sticks slathered with human excrement.

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There aren't any active volcanoes on Oahu, you have to fly over to the Big Island to see them - I'll be doing that tomorrow.
When i did that my pilot actually let me take control of hte plane for a few minutes as well (he looked like tom selek)

You going to explore the lava tubes as well?
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The tubes are right down the road from me but I don't know if I'll have time to do them. I've heard that housing is so expensive in Hawaii that people are actually living in them now. You could spend a lifetime exploring this place.

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Ok, I think I got some bandwidth - this one starts out as a small shrub growing in the cracks of bare lava. Over time, it becomes a small tree, and the predominant plant as the rainforest reclaims the lava beds. It is incredibly beautiful. Here is one in the initial shrub stage:
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Recall that earlier generations faced down fascism and communism not just with missiles and tanks, but with sturdy alliances and enduring convictions. They understood that our power alone cannot protect us, nor does it entitle us to do as we please. Instead, they knew that our power grows through its prudent use; our security emanates from the justness of our cause, the force of our example, the tempering qualities of humility and restraint.

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These palms start growing in the bare lava as well. They will eventually grow in the shade of the the flowering tree shown above. This is a pretty good pic of an emerging eco system:
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Recall that earlier generations faced down fascism and communism not just with missiles and tanks, but with sturdy alliances and enduring convictions. They understood that our power alone cannot protect us, nor does it entitle us to do as we please. Instead, they knew that our power grows through its prudent use; our security emanates from the justness of our cause, the force of our example, the tempering qualities of humility and restraint.

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Eventually, in what looks about 70 years based on the dates of the lava flows, the rainforest grows in. The tree trunks you see are the matured red-flowering shrub, while the palms or giant ferns, I am not sure what they are, grow in their shade. Eventually the palms become as large as the flowering trees, and form a thick canopy.
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Or when you stumble onto a Maui farmers special crop and fall into a pit of Pongee sticks slathered with human excrement.
Ah yes, the legendary Maui Wowie. Death to those that would interfere.

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Here's my favorite pic of the trip, taken on a hike on the Nokia Trail in Oahu. This is like five hours deep into the jungle. I found out later that it is a pillbox that is a mockup of a Japanese pillbox, and soldiers training for WWII island invasions used it to practice blowing them up. This one looks like it took a satchel charge right through the back door.

Check out the palm trees growing right in the roof of the thing, in solid concrete.
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