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Blast near Baghdad mosque kills 10 Iraqis
Rice, Straw call on Iraqis to form a government as soon as possible

BAGHDAD, Iraq - A truck bomb exploded Monday near a Shiite mosque in northeastern Baghdad as worshippers were leaving after evening prayers, killing at least 10 people and wounding 30, police said.

The U.S. military also said four American troops were killed Sunday by hostile fire in the volatile Anbar province, the largest number of American deaths in a single attack in more than a month.

The explosion, which appeared to have been detonated by remote control, occurred about 8 p.m. near the al-Shroofi mosque in the predominantly Shiite neighborhood of Shaab, police Capt. Ali al-Obaidi said.

Iraqi police also reported a dramatic attack on a Shiite family in Baghdad’s Dora district, saying four gunmen charged into a home, lined up a brother, two sisters, and an uncle against a wall and shot them dead.

The father of the family, a grocery shop owner, had been killed six months earlier by gunmen in the same neighborhood, one of the most dangerous in the capital. The mother was visiting relatives when the attack occurred on Sunday, police said.

Sectarian violence has escalated since a Feb. 22 bombing of an important Shiite shrine in Samarra and reprisal attacks against Sunni institutions

U.S. Secretary of State Condoleezza Rice and British Foreign Secretary Jack Straw, meanwhile, urged Iraqi leaders to form a government as soon as possible to curb the bloodshed and rein in sectarian militias behind much of the violence.

In northern Iraq, the regional government of Kurdistan released the Kurdish writer Kamal Karim just a week after he received an 18-month sentence for articles on a Kurdish Web site that accused one of the region’s top leaders of corruption, said Mohamed Khoshnaw, a government spokesman.

The regional prime minister issued a pardon for Karim, citing international pressure to release the writer.

The three Marines and one sailor died Sunday, raising to eight the number of U.S. troops who died this weekend. At least 2,337 American service members have been killed since the Iraq war started in March 2003, according to an Associated Press count.

The U.S. military statement did not provide more details about the deaths of the U.S. troops in Anbar. It was the largest number of Americans killed in an attack since Feb. 22, when four soldiers were killed by a roadside bomb near Hawija, 150 miles north of Baghdad.

The U.S. military also said two American pilots were killed Saturday when their Apache helicopter crashed during combat operations southwest of Baghdad, adding that the aircraft was probably shot down.

Two soldiers also were killed by a roadside bomb late Saturday in central Baghdad, while another died of non-hostile related injuries suffered Thursday near the northern city of Kirkuk, according to the U.S. command.

Elsewhere, a car bombing in Baghdad’s eastern Shiite slum of Sadr City on Monday killed at least two civilians and wounded six others, including a 9-year-old boy, while four people were wounded when a car bomb struck the central district of Karradah in the capital.

Six people — a navy officer, two policemen, two workers at an electrical plant and a boy — were killed by drive-by shooters in a market area of the southern city of Basra, police said.

North of the capital in Nibaie, gunmen killed two truck drivers and kidnapped another while they were carrying construction materials to the U.S. military base in Balad, police said.

Drive-by shooters killed a police captain outside his home late Sunday in Baghdad’s Dora neighborhood, police said.

Police also discovered three bodies in eastern Baghdad neighborhoods. One in Mashtal was handcuffed and shot in the head, another in Baladiyat was strangled and covered with bandages, and the third was found in Sadr City, shot in the forehead.

Bombings in Buhriz also damaged several buildings including a barber shop and grocery store in a market district of the town, which is a former Saddam Hussein stronghold about 35 miles northeast of Baghdad, police said.

The visit by Rice and Straw comes at a time of uncertainty over the fate of interim Prime Minister Ibrahim al-Jaafari, the Shiite nominee for a second term but widely blamed for the deadlock in talks on forming a unity government following the Dec. 15 election.

Sunni and Kurdish politicians have called for the Shiite bloc to replace al-Jaafari as its nominee. Last weekend, two prominent Shiite politicians joined calls for the prime minister to step aside — a sign that al-Jaafari’s support is cracking.

Rice and Straw, who arrived Sunday for a surprise, two-day visit, made clear they are frustrated with the slow pace of talks on a new government and said the country needs a strong prime minister as quickly as possible.

At a news conference before departing Monday, both Rice and Straw were careful to avoid specifically calling for al-Jaafari to be shunted aside. But Rice said the next prime minister must be a “strong leader� capable of unifying the people of this fractured land.

“We have emphasized, Secretary Rice and myself, time and again that who becomes nominated and elected ... including the prime minister is a matter of sovereign decisions by the sovereign parliament,� Straw said.

But he added “somebody has to fill these positions and fill them quickly and we’ve urged those we have been speaking to do so.�

Both Rice and Straw spoke of the need for the next government to curb the power of sectarian militias.

“You have to have the state with a monopoly of power,� Rice said. “We have sent very strong messages� that there must be “a reining in of militias.�

Rice and Straw said they set no deadlines, and there were no immediate signs of progress following the string of meetings the two held Sunday with Iraqi politicians and ethnic and religious power brokers.

Some Iraqi leaders said they welcomed the help from Rice and Straw.

“When this becomes so difficult and when the situation cannot wait, any intervention that serves the (national) interest and helps save the country from bloodbath ... could be useful,� said Naseer al-Ani of the Iraqi Islamic Party.

Others called it meddling.

“I think that their interference is bad, and it further complicates issues because this is an Iraqi matter,� said Mahmoud Othman, a Kurdish politician.


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Straw is no more than a jumped-up,opportunistic ex-communist hypocrite.Pretty much standard fayre for 'New' Labour.And,he looks suspiciously as if he is a habitual nose-picker.The flared nostrils are a dead giveaway.[xx(][:(!]
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how is creation of the new gov going to stop the violance?.. this is just more crap from the nazis on the hill. bunk and more bunk.. bend over... i am getting pissed more and more. this is just freaking ridiculous. lies, and more lies. this is not america we all know and love. it has been hijacked and most sheep don't seem to give a darn.. truly sickening.



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Straw is no more than a jumped-up,opportunistic ex-communist hypocrite.Pretty much standard fayre for 'New' Labour.And,he looks suspiciously as if he is a habitual nose-picker.The flared nostrils are a dead giveaway.[xx(][:(!]
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how is creation of the new gov going to stop the violance?.. this is just more crap from the nazis on the hill. bunk and more bunk.. bend over... i am getting pissed more and more. this is just freaking ridiculous. lies, and more lies. this is not america we all know and love. it has been hijacked and most sheep don't seem to give a darn.. truly sickening.
I guess they figure that even if nothing is being done it has to be seen to be done.
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i don't think they are goona fool anyone.



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No there not.
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There is no civil war get over it you woose puss filled cu&*ts.
We are in charge because we are strong and we know better. This is just a cleansing that's all. It's needed sometimes you know! besides like I said earlier it's like our inner cities we let them kill each others so we can have safe streets back in the morning whene we hit the road towards downtown. It gives our police force some work to do and the mayor feels important. Nothing different here, move on[^]
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Every cloud has a silver lining. If it does dissolve into an all out civil war they will be too busy killing each other to worry about much for at least a little while. The concern comes once a winner emerges.
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It's not going to really work out that way - civil war in Iraq will probably ignite civil wars across the Middle Eastern powder keg. All those fascist pig fucks we have been supporting for years will finally have to answer to their people. For us unfortunately, it means a major disruption in our oil supply.


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