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All I know is you Brits need to start thinking of more intimidating names for your weapons.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Green_Cheese_missile

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All I know is you Brits need to start thinking of more intimidating names for your weapons.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Green_Cheese_missile
If you have eaten British food you will know how scary this name actually is [:D]
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^^^^

Maybe Green Cheese refers to Stilton 'The King of Cheeses' which has a blue/green marbling.But you are so right,many children (and adults with an unsophisticated palate) find it scary.They feel much more comfortable with a hamburger,or better yet,a 'happy meal'.[;)][8D]
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All I know is you Brits need to start thinking of more intimidating names for your weapons.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Green_Cheese_missile
my goodness, did anyone bother to open the link, LOL

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The Green Cheese missile was a British radar-guided anti-ship tactical nuclear warhead missile project of the 1950s. It was developed by Fairey Aviation, and was originally called Fairey Project 7 and was supposed to be used by the Fairey Gannet. Unfortunately, the missile's 3,800 lb (1720 kg) weight proved to be too heavy for the Gannet and would have required extra modifications to the Gannet's bomb bay to expose the missile's seeker head to the target before launch. The missile project continued since the Blackburn Buccaneer naval strike aircraft had a rotating bomb bay which was ideally suited to the task.

The project was cancelled in 1956 due in part to cost over-runs, at which point it had a reached a stage called Cockburn Cheese (after the British military scientist Dr. Robert Cockburn), and replaced with the Green Flash missile project. This too was cancelled and the idea of a tactical nuclear guided missile for anti-shipping use was given up in favour of a simple "lobbed" tactical nuclear bomb.

The name was randomly generated as one of the UKs Rainbow Codes.
How did anyone from the defence ministry manage to keep a straight face with Fairey, Rainbow, Cockburn [cheese], and Green Cheese mentioned all within a single meeting?


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^^^^^^^

Note: In native English,in the pronunciation of 'Cockburn' the ck is silent,ie 'Coburn'.

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yer right. I should know that because of Cockburn's Vintage Port.

If I were there and saw the list of agenda at the beginning of the meeting, I would have a hard time keeping a straight face.




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ahh, now then.... the plan is working.

you thought it was just a handful of television programs... you thought froots were just hamms in front of the camera....

you were wrong, so wrong... Mwahaha...HAHAHA.. we shall take this world! by force if needed![}:)]

i love the froot inspired weapons! now... if they only made plaid, polka-dot, paisley or houndstooth patterned guns, the gay mafia would be a big ole bunch'a "proud mary's", wouldnt they?

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Meanwhile,back at the trial.........


From BBC News 24/3/06
Accused 'talked of poison plot'


One of the men accused of plotting bomb attacks in the UK discussed poisoning football fans by contaminating beer cans and burgers, a supergrass said.
Mohammed Babar, 31, told an Old Bailey trial that suspect Waheed Mahmood, 34, of Crawley, West Sussex, talked of getting a job in a stadium as a vendor.

He and six other men deny charges including plotting a bombing campaign.

Babar, a Pakistani-born US citizen, claims he trained with the men but has been given immunity from UK charges.

He has previously pleaded guilty in the US to terror offences.

Four of the men also deny having chemicals suitable for bomb-making. The trial is expected to last five months.

'Beer vendor'

On his second day in the witness box, Babar told the jury he met Mr Mahmood at a house in Pakistan in 2003 where they talked of jihad.

"He could not understand why all these UK brothers were coming over to Pakistan. They could easily do jihad operation in England," he said.

He said Mr Mahmood had said: "You could get a job in a soccer stadium as a beer vendor.

He said you could stand on street corners selling poison burgers and then just leave the area

Mohammed Babar

"You just put poison in a syringe, injecting it in a can and put a sticker on it which would stop it leaking and give it out.

"Or you could get mobile vending carts - all those vans going round selling burgers. He said he had done it. I didn't believe it.

"He said you could stand on street corners selling poison burgers and then just leave the area."

Babar earlier told the court he had given three computers to Waheed Mahmood after meeting him in Pakistan because he was told they were needed by al-Qaeda.


The men, one of whom cannot be pictured, deny all the charges

He told the Old Bailey he initially travelled to the UK and then to Pakistan, with the intention of going to Afghanistan.

Babar told the court that he had visited the UK in late 2002 and attended a meeting where radical cleric Abu Hamza was speaking.

Another of the alleged plotters, Omar Khyam, was also there.

He said they were shown the "video wills" of two of the people who carried out the 9/11 attacks in the US.

Asked what the attitude of those at the meeting had been toward 9/11, Babar replied: "Everyone at the meeting agreed with it, everyone was in praise of those who carried it out."

In Pakistan he met a number of Britons mainly from the London and Crawley areas, he told the court.

He left some weapons behind. I just wanted to show Waheed Mahmood where they were buried in case he ever needed these weapons

Mohammed Babar

He said he first became aware of Waheed Mahmood in late 2001, because his flatmate in Pakistan - a man named Asim - had identified him as his "contact".

Asked what he meant by contact, Babar said: "If you wanted to go somewhere or wanted something, to go to Afghanistan or to receive some sort of training, you needed to contact someone who will lead you to your goal."

He said Asim had come to Pakistan from east London, but he also had strong ties with the "Crawley group".

The two had lived together in a flat in Lahore and were joined by others from the "east London group" of which Asim was part.

Babar told the court that he first came face to face with Waheed Mahmood in April or May 2002 when he came to Babar's home in Lahore.


Security was particularly tight at the Old Bailey

A man from east London had left a stash of weapons buried near the Punjab University and Mr Waheed had arrived to be shown where they were, he said.

"He left some weapons behind. I just wanted to show Waheed Mahmood where they were buried in case he ever needed these weapons.

"He knew what he was coming for," he said.

Babar listed the weapons as AK47s and their magazines, 2-3,000 rounds of ammunition and grenades.


Suspects Salahuddin Amin, 31, from Luton, and Omar Khyam, from Crawley, were alleged by the prosecution to have received training in explosives and use of the poison ricin in Pakistan.

Mr Mahmood, 34, Salahuddin Amin, 31, Jawad Akbar, 22, Omar Khyam, 24, and his brother Shujah Mahmood, 19, all of Crawley, West Sussex, Anthony Garcia - also known as Rahman Adam - 23, of Ilford, east London, and Nabeel Hussain, 20, of Horley, Surrey, deny conspiring to cause explosions.

Mr Khyam, Mr Garcia and Mr Hussain deny possessing ammonium nitrate fertiliser.

Mr Khyam and Shujah Mahmood deny possessing aluminium powder.


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Omar Khyam - another example of God's sense of humour, surely.

Alike for those who for TO-DAY prepare,
And those that after a TO-MORROW stare,
A Muezzin from the Tower of Darkness cries
"Fools! your Reward is neither Here nor There."

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