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I think it made good chili. Problem with this is, while I 100% support the troops, the plan execution and backup have failed and at some point, in any battle you have to regroup and determine the best course of action to win or exit. We have not done that. Without the discourse that is being shown at home, I don't think it would even be considered and it must be.

You cannot go into battle without a backup plan and that is what happened in Iraq. Headstrong fight to the end only increases profits for the body bag guys and does not provide the best possible outcome.

We have to push back on a failed plan and a failed execution. We are several 1000% over on time, budget and expectation on this battle plan. By any definition it is a failure. Pushback might just get a new plan that will save lives and speed up the conclusion. We can only hope.

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Wow,
Stir up the chili, go away for a day, and man is it boiling!

Yes, my argument was full of a lot of holes, kinda like lots of the vacuum lines in my 'ol benz. And yes, I do offer an apology to anyone that I hacked off, believe me, I never meant to infer that a democrat wouldn't be a good soldier, person, or anything else. What I would hope for in any war is that the anger, emotion, and liveliness we've just demonstrated would be present there, wouldn't want to be fighting alongside any other type person!

And yes, we are in the middle of a war, the war on terror, and the rule lead, follow, or get the hell out of the way applies here. Winning wars takes dedication and support, not detraction and protest. If you want another Vietnam, gripe and moan. If you want another victory, as in WWII, get past that and support our cause even if you don't fully agree with it, because you're AMERICAN.

OK, nuff said now, I'll go away for another day to see if the Chili's boiling again...
You da man, you tell them pansies[^]
Ya got to line up behind da man and praise him for the freedom that he bestoed on us.
You people have no chame, no backbone and not an ounce of patriotic fever to keep up the pressure on the bad guys outside our borders.
You keep it up and next thing you know we will all be working as shoremen for them fuckin ayrabs.
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Is inbreeding & racism mandatory in the Ol' South or just a preference?
Watch your mouth boy, I've talked to you about stereotyping the south before. [:)]






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Hopefully the USA won't fall to second world status before the new SOUTHERN voting class learns enough not to make incredibly self defeating decisions based upon their poor public education and preconceived prejudices.

PS Like second world values? Fucking move to one you imbecile!
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You are a simpleton.
What does that have to do with being a supporter of freeing Iraq from a tyrant? The idiot above said republicans like mudering women and children.
You back a man (and his war) that has taken the lives of thousands of innocent civilians including women and children.




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That is a nice chart but what does it really say? We did not, under any reason go into Iraq to save Iraqi's who were being killed. That was post screwup revision. We went in for WMD, terrorism, and stability in the area at a cost of 4.5 billion and 6 weeks.

If we use that chart as logic to go to war, we need to go into Dumfar, China, Rwanda, and about 30 other countries that can make that chart look like a bad frat weekend.

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You are a simpleton.
What does that have to do with being a supporter of freeing Iraq from a tyrant? The idiot above said republicans like mudering women and children.
You back a man (and his war) that has taken the lives of thousands of innocent civilians including women and children.




Wow wow wow very nice chart that's the way to show them Chip. I want to use this chart in the other forum where I am constantly batteling liberals and communists, where did you get it and who made it?
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Oh yeah, I am a simpleton allright, how about this:
WARNING Rape picture
http://schema-root.org/region/middle_east/iraq/coalition_forces/united_states/abuse_of_iraqis/

You have freed us allright...

Again, simpleton, what does that have to do with being a republican? People that do vile things like that should be punished. But if you and the brain dead KV are going to accuse me of getting off on murdering woman and children expect a very hostile response. Here's a big FUCK YOU to the both of you.
Excellent Chip, you tell them that comie and that ayrab. They have no defense against a blunt statemnet like this because they have no balls and they don't make coherent sense anyway which is unlike you, I admire your technique. I will be learning from you master.
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Now MBZER, are you implying that the white sheet crowd is still around in the Glorious South? Actually, no joke, there are only a few thousand of those peckerheads still wandering around. The media likes to take pictures of them when they rally but there are usually not too many.

I accidently ended up in a building across the street from a rally and could not leave until it was over due to security and there was only about 30 that showed up. We threw things at them from the fifth floor landing to make things interesting. Apparently the police consider that inciting but left us alone.

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That is a nice chart but what does it really say? We did not, under any reason go into Iraq to save Iraqi's who were being killed. That was post screwup revision. We went in for WMD, terrorism, and stability in the area at a cost of 4.5 billion and 6 weeks.

If we use that chart as logic to go to war, we need to go into Dumfar, China, Rwanda, and about 30 other countries that can make that chart look like a bad frat weekend.
How could you doubt the motives of our leaders? We went there for all the right reasons and we are still there for some more right reasons. With time we will find many more good and right reasons again over and over. We are right and the rest of the world can eat my shorts.
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