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Another reason to like the Netherlands...

There are a few things I found interesting in this article. First, you're exempt if you're from certain countries, including EU nationals, US, Swiss, Aussies, NZ, Canada, and Japan. I guess that means we're all liberal enough to move there. And if you make more than $54K per year you're also exempt. (That's a curious exception to me.)

Second, the whole idea of the film they have to watch is to help immigrants adapt, so why then allow the tamed-down version for certain (primarily Muslim) cultures?

And where is the drug-use film? Don't immigrants have to become accustomed to that? [;)]

Anyone seen the film? Any copies available?[:D][;)]




Dutch Immigrants Must Watch Racy Film
By BRUCE MUTSVAIRO, Associated Press Writer
March 15, 2006



The camera focuses on two gay men kissing in a park. Later, a topless woman emerges from the sea and walks onto a crowded beach. For would-be immigrants to the Netherlands, this film is a test of their readiness to participate in the liberal Dutch culture.

If they can't stomach it, no need to apply.

Despite whether they find the film offensive, applicants must buy a copy and watch it if they hope to pass the Netherlands' new entrance examination.

The test — the first of its kind in the world — became compulsory Wednesday, and was made available at 138 Dutch embassies.

Taking the exam costs $420. The price for a preparation package that includes the film, a CD ROM and a picture album of famous Dutch people is $75.

"As of today, immigrants wishing to settle in the Netherlands for, in particular, the purposes of marrying or forming a relationship will be required to take the civic integration examination abroad," the Immigration Ministry said in a statement.

The test is part of a broader crackdown on immigration that has been gathering momentum in the Netherlands since 2001.

Anti-immigration sentiment peaked with filmmaker Theo van Gogh's murder by a Dutch national of Moroccan descent in November 2004.

Both praise and scorn have been poured on Immigration Minister Rita Verdonk, the architect of the new test and other policies that have reduced immigration by at least a third.

"If you pass, you're more than welcome," Verdonk said. "It is in the interest of Dutch society and those concerned."

Not everyone is happy with the new test.

"Today is a black day for the people intending to bring their partners to Holland," said Buitenlandse Partner, a lobbying group for mixed Dutch/immigrant couples.

Dutch theologian Karel Steenbrink criticized the 105-minute movie, saying it would be offensive to some Muslims.

"It is not a prudent way of welcoming people to the Netherlands," said Steenbrink, a professor at the University of Utrecht. "Minister Verdonk has radical ideas."

But Mohammed Sini, the chairman of Islam and Citizenship, a national Muslim organization, defended the film, saying that homosexuality is "a reality."

Sini urged all immigrants "to embrace modernity."

A censored version with no homosexual and nude material had been prepared because it is illegal to show such images in Iran and some other countries, filmmaker Walter Goverde said.

"With all the respect I have for all religions, I think people need to understand that Holland has its own liberal side as well," he said.

After viewing the film, which is available in most languages, applicants are then quizzed on important Dutch factoids such as the number of provinces that make up the Netherlands; the role played by William of Orange in the country's history; and Queen Beatrix's monarchial functions.

There are some major exemptions. EU nationals, asylum-seekers and skilled workers who earn more than $54,000 per year will not be required to take the 30-minute computerized exam.

Also, citizens of the United States, Australia, New Zealand, Canada, Japan and Switzerland are exempt.
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RE: Another reason to like the Netherlands...

only if they implemented this years ago..it would have stopped medivale age middle eastern mollousks to migrate to europe and spread their extremist edition of islam all over.. as well recruit sucide bombers!!

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He's right^^^^^
It's a great idea.No one should seek to join or be accepted in a culture in which they feel uncomfortable.However,I don't see the point of making exceptions for Muslims,Jews or any other group.If you don't like what you see-stay away.This is much better than the ridiculous British test for citizenship.These regulations should be standard across the EU.What's the point of the EU if there is no unity?[:(!]

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RE: Another reason to like the Netherlands...

good idea... but it is also executed in the Dutch way (too many people involved in the process and of course they do not communicate - even if you want to go forward and do the education and test, you'll have a tough time. I do not miss that bull shit[xx(][:(!]). If you think the INS is tough, go and try to emigrate properly into NL.....sorry had to vent.

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