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What a load of bullshit. It's all Israel's and the Jews fault that the people in this country don't trust Arabs?
How clever of the Jews to manipulate the terrorists into flying jets into the World Trade Center and killing 3 thousand Americans. I'm sure it's just a Jewish manipulation that suicide bombers are ALL Arabs.
How clever that the Jews were able to manipulate the Danes into drawing cartoons about Mohammed and causing the riots and DEATHS of scores of people. Do RATIONAL people burn dowm embassies and behead people?
Perhaps moderate Arabs and their governments should ACT to stamp out the extremists and drown out the hatred being spewed by them. Instead they fan the flames of hatred to distract their populace from their own failings. Can you blame us for not trusting them? They are our "allies" until it becomes politically expedient not to.
Saudi Arabia is a prime example. How can you be our (the USA's) ally while you simultaneously allow Madrassa's (sp?) to teach hatred and death and have members of the royal family funding terrorism.
Yes there are internal threats to our security but I will guarantee you they are nowhere near as prevalent or even tolerated as they are in the Arab world.
Want an example of how we deal with our extremists? Look at the scumbag Fred Phelps protesting at vets funerals. Take a poll and find out that 98% of the populace is disgusted by him.
Take a poll in the Arab world and you will see that 98% of them believe evrything is Israel's fault.
Even the article you used said it HAS to be the Jews fault.
Last time I looked Israel has NEVER flown airplanes into US buildings or promoted suicide bombers in their schools.
Americans don't trust Arabs because they use their own eyes to make that determination.
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What a load of bullshit. It's all Israel's and the Jews fault that the people in this country don't trust Arabs?
How clever of the Jews to manipulate the terrorists into flying jets into the World Trade Center and killing 3 thousand Americans. I'm sure it's just a Jewish manipulation that suicide bombers are ALL Arabs.
How clever that the Jews were able to manipulate the Danes into drawing cartoons about Mohammed and causing the riots and DEATHS of scores of people. Do RATIONAL people burn dowm embassies and behead people?
Perhaps moderate Arabs and their governments should ACT to stamp out the extremists and drown out the hatred being spewed by them. Instead they fan the flames of hatred to distract their populace from their own failings. Can you blame us for not trusting them? They are our "allies" until it becomes politically expedient not to.
Saudi Arabia is a prime example. How can you be our (the USA's) ally while you simultaneously allow Madrassa's (sp?) to teach hatred and death and have members of the royal family funding terrorism.
Yes there are internal threats to our security but I will guarantee you they are nowhere near as prevalent or even tolerated as they are in the Arab world.
Want an example of how we deal with our extremists? Look at the scumbag Fred Phelps protesting at vets funerals. Take a poll and find out that 98% of the populace is disgusted by him.
Take a poll in the Arab world and you will see that 98% of them believe evrything is Israel's fault.
Even the article you used said it HAS to be the Jews fault.
Last time I looked Israel has NEVER flown airplanes into US buildings or promoted suicide bombers in their schools.
Americans don't trust Arabs because they use their own eyes to make that determination.
Relax before you get a canuption... Now no one here is disputing that the article is wrong in pointing at the Jews as the bad guys in this affair. Did you read my comments or you just like to jump on me because I am a bad guy????

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Yes I read your post. To quote " a little over the top"? Want credibility? How about calling it as bullshit that Jews were even mentioned in the article.
You want to change my perception of Arabs? Start by practicing a little REALITY.
Of course, in the Arab world it is required that every article mention the Jews as the root of the problem.
Deal honestly with your own problems and the world's perception of Arabs may change.
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Yes I read your post. To quote " a little over the top"? Want credibility? How about calling it as bullshit that Jews were even mentioned in the article.
You want to change my perception of Arabs? Start by practicing a little REALITY.
Of course, in the Arab world it is required that every article mention the Jews as the root of the problem.
Deal honestly with your own problems and the world's perception of Arabs may change.
I don't need to change your perception of Arabs it’s already well etched on stone... Now about my comment, I said it’s over the top because that's what it is, garbage and yes I admit that many writers in the Arab world will use that to further inflame the issue. It's wrong but I think they are no better than your writers that label Arabs terrorists just for being Arabs... This was an editorial just like the many US based editorials that I have read, they all breed hatred. The reason I brought this one is because of the UAE issue and he was right on target other than that comment to a certain extent. Aha, let me elaborate before you call me a begot or some other crap. In the schemes of things Arab business is targeted by Israeli interest because of competition and of course ideology. Nothing wrong with the business part, I have a business I and happen to compete with Israeli firms once in a while. On the ideology side there seem to be a cut throat mentality that’s based on nationalistic tendencies. On the latter I personally don’t get involved because it’s a waste of time but from what I gather from others it’s brutal. That said, you have to understand that my feedback is based on REALITY…
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Can you explain to me how Arab businesses are targeted by Israeli businesses when most Arabs countries ban their citizens from doing business with Israel?
I rarely see editorials in the US that are blatantly racist regarding Arabs. Perhaps you can link to an editorial from a reputable paper that lays out a logical argument then concludes that its all the Arab terrorists fault.
If the writer of the UAE editorial wants to be taken seriously then he should not have concluded that it was Israel's fault. That alone invalidated his argument.
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Do RATIONAL people burn dowm embassies and behead people?
Of course not. Rational people use cruise missiles, assassinations, torture, and "collateral damage"...

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Want an example of how we deal with our extremists? Look at the scumbag Fred Phelps protesting at vets funerals. Take a poll and find out that 98% of the populace is disgusted by him.
IOW, "we" do exactly what you accuse the Arab countries of doing.

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Want an example of how we deal with our extremists? Look at the scumbag Fred Phelps protesting at vets funerals. Take a poll and find out that 98% of the populace is disgusted by him.
IOW, "we" do exactly what you accuse the Arab countries of doing.
So it's your contention that 98% of the Arab populace is AGAINST terrorism? Like the people dancing in the streets when the twin towers came down?
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Want an example of how we deal with our extremists? Look at the scumbag Fred Phelps protesting at vets funerals. Take a poll and find out that 98% of the populace is disgusted by him.
IOW, "we" do exactly what you accuse the Arab countries of doing.
So it's your contention that 98% of the Arab populace is AGAINST terrorism? Like the people dancing in the streets when the twin towers came down?
Well, by that measure, it's more like 99.99999%
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Can you explain to me how Arab businesses are targeted by Israeli businesses when most Arabs countries ban their citizens from doing business with Israel?
I rarely see editorials in the US that are blatantly racist regarding Arabs. Perhaps you can link to an editorial from a reputable paper that lays out a logical argument then concludes that its all the Arab terrorists fault.
If the writer of the UAE editorial wants to be taken seriously then he should not have concluded that it was Israel's fault. That alone invalidated his argument.
We don't do business with each other but we sure do business with people that use both of us. I can site many examples of contracts that went south in India where both Arabs and Israeli business compete.
As to editorials, yes there is an imbalance when it comes to accusing Jews and Israelis from our side but please don't insult my intelligence just flip the channel to FOX for a minute and enjoy the shit they spew...
For you the fact that he mentioned the Jews it made his whole article invalid is simply moronic. I think he is expressing frustration but he was not smart enough to be delicate to not offend your kind. I mean he was not PC enough, maybe he should go to an indoctrination camp where he will be taught some manners...
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