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RE: Are Bush Supporters ready to admit Iraq was a collossal mistake?

If Saddam had attacked Pearl Harbor with all of the nuclear subs and fighter jets he has buried in the desert, I'd be all for it. You see, then we would be defending our country. Or if our European allies had asked for our assistance in regard to dealing with the Iraqi Fourth Reich that was about to rise up and rule the whole world, I might also be for it. What I am not for is swatting a fly with a hand grenade and doing our best to bankrupt our nation in the process. It's both destructive and fool-hearty, and we'll all be suffering the consequences for generations to come. Snap out of it man -- there was no Iraqi invasion fleet -- really.

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Watch the body count once the civil war (which we precipitated)kicks off-you ain't seen nothing yet guys.[:(][V]


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RE: Are Bush Supporters ready to admit Iraq was a collossal mistake?

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If Saddam had attacked Pearl Harbor with all of the nuclear subs and fighter jets he has buried in the desert, I'd be all for it. You see, then we would be defending our country. Or if our European allies had asked for our assistance in regard to dealing with the Iraqi Fourth Reich that was about to rise up and rule the whole world, I might also be for it. What I am not for is swatting a fly with a hand grenade and doing our best to bankrupt our nation in the process. It's both destructive and fool-hearty, and we'll all be suffering the consequences for generations to come. Snap out of it man -- there was no Iraqi invasion fleet -- really.


So the only menace in the nuclear/terror age is a risk of invasion? So you were opposed to US action in Afghanistan, Somolia, Kosovo, and Haiti.



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We invaded Afghanistan in retaliation to an attack upon our country. That invasion was wholly justified, despite the fact that the 9/11 attack would have probably never occurred without U.S. complicity. If you don't see the distinction, maybe you should work on that...

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If Saddam had attacked Pearl Harbor with all of the nuclear subs and fighter jets he has buried in the desert, I'd be all for it. You see, then we would be defending our country. Or if our European allies had asked for our assistance in regard to dealing with the Iraqi Fourth Reich that was about to rise up and rule the whole world, I might also be for it. What I am not for is swatting a fly with a hand grenade and doing our best to bankrupt our nation in the process. It's both destructive and fool-hearty, and we'll all be suffering the consequences for generations to come. Snap out of it man -- there was no Iraqi invasion fleet -- really.


So the only menace in the nuclear/terror age is a risk of invasion? So you were opposed to US action in Afghanistan, Somolia, Kosovo, and Haiti.


You missed his point. He's trying to explain that the only armed conflict which he can reasonably stand behind is that either A) We are attacked, know who attacked us, and have a strategic plan to strike back. Or B) A nation is in the processing of invading several nations throughout a region and eventually wants to conquer the world by any means necessary.

In Iraq, neither of these things happened in 2003. In 1991 you had you shot to take out saddam and Bush 41 blew it, too bad. In 2003, Saddam neither attacked us or was threatening to conquer the entire middle east. He was a lame duck trying to hold off the kurds in the north and the Iranians in the east. His weaponry was from the 1970's or older and he lacked the capability to deliever a weapon outside of the middle east.

You are also very contradictory in your arguing points. I know I have, one multiple occasions, pointed out to you why we went to Bosnia while you contend it was foolish.

Are we really in any more danger today than we were in the Cold War?
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RE: Are Bush Supporters ready to admit Iraq was a collossal mistake?

The premise is false. It assumes that an opinion concerning what is going on overseas is implicit support of this or that politician.

One could support Bush and not support the war or one could support the war and not support Bush.

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I know I have, one multiple occasions, pointed out to you why we went to Bosnia while you contend it was foolish.
The Bosnia situation was horrific, and someone should've stepped in and stopped it long before. Fact is that any number of European countries could have, but no one wanted to lift a finger to help the Bosnian Muslims. I remember when Croatia finally got it's little army together and kicked the crap outta the Serbian invaders, but turned around and went home after they made their point without helping the Bosnians more than just a little.

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I know I have, one multiple occasions, pointed out to you why we went to Bosnia while you contend it was foolish.
The Bosnia situation was horrific, and someone should've stepped in and stopped it long before. Fact is that any number of European countries could have, but no one wanted to lift a finger to help the Bosnian Muslims. I remember when Croatia finally got it's little army together and kicked the crap outta the Serbian invaders, but turned around and went home after they made their point without helping the Bosnians more than just a little.

The Iraqi situation was horrific and the invasion was totally justified on those grounds.
On top of that you had refusals to comply with UN chapter 7 resolutions and aiding and harboring terrorists.
Your double standards are amazing.
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We invaded Afghanistan in retaliation to an attack upon our country. That invasion was wholly justified, despite the fact that the 9/11 attack would have probably never occurred without U.S. complicity. If you don't see the distinction, maybe you should work on that...

Afganistan didn't attack our country. How about those other countries I had mentioned?
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I know I have, one multiple occasions, pointed out to you why we went to Bosnia while you contend it was foolish.
The Bosnia situation was horrific, and someone should've stepped in and stopped it long before. Fact is that any number of European countries could have, but no one wanted to lift a finger to help the Bosnian Muslims. I remember when Croatia finally got it's little army together and kicked the crap outta the Serbian invaders, but turned around and went home after they made their point without helping the Bosnians more than just a little.
Yes the EU and/or NATO should have stepping in long before it got as bad as it did. After WW2 the Allies pledged "never again" to genocide and concentration camps. Turns out that's excatly what was going on in Bosnia, they were just turning a blind eye so long as the war stayed within Bosnia. Shame on them all.

Then we come in, guns blazing, shooting off DU rounds and make a mess of the region forever. I always wondered what a three eye'd fish would look like in real life. Guess we'll find out sooner or later.
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