chiphomme - 2/27/2006 5:01 PM
Well I too am sick of explaining ad nauseum that the Iraqi invasion wasn't simply about WMDs. And that Bush didn't lie. And that the status quo with Iraq couldn't continue. And that Iraq was a threat.
Try reading through Bushs SOTUs and UN addresses prior to the invasion. But I am also trying to point out that there's plenty of room for criticism too.
It gets tiresome reading people creating straw men when they're trying to argue a point with me.
And if you honestly think my "intelligence" and "comprehension" are in question why do you bother debating?
For what it is worth, chiphomme, I think you are being much more reasonable now than in many other similar threads. There remains a difference between your outlook on America's role in the world, and mine, but that is not bothersome to me in the least. In fact, your humanitarian reasons for ending Saddam's reign are left of my outlook on life.
I do get bothered when I see what looks like smoothing the edges of the sequence of events to justify your other belief, the one where you suggest that Bush did not lie about the WMD to make the case for invading Iraq. WMD was the sales pitch and all the other reasons you cite, which are unselfish and humanitarian, were not. Read the Congressional Resolution that authorized the use of United States Armed Forces. It was carefully crafted to respond to the specifics of the request and justification the Bush administration made to have Congress authorize the invasion, under specific conditions. The Resolution specifically excludes humanitarian reasons for using US Armed Forces in Iraq.
I hear the line of thought that suggests Bush actually believed he would find the WMD. I also believe he believed that, not because the data he had available said there was an imminent threat anything like the threat he portrayed in the presentations he and Colin Powell and others in his administration made to the American people, Congress and the UN. Bush believed there were WMD in Iraq because he was sure there was going to be some old stash of undestroyed stuff from Bush #1's Iraq War to discover and hold up and justify the invasion from the WMD perspective.
President Kennedy set a standard for accusing another country of aggressive acts when he showed the world the Russian missiles being shipped to Cuba and then set up on Cuban soil. 40 years later and billions of dollars invested in spy satellite technology does a lot more. Tracking WMD movements to thwart UN inspectors should have been simple, and a high priority since that is what we were accusing the UN inspectors of being too dull to notice or deviously supporting. So, we either didn't try or we did and it was not apparent that any were being moved. To conclude we were somehow missing the movements without any basis for assuming there were WMD movements occuring anyway was delusional. As much as I find Bush unqualified, I am not convinced he is delusional yet.