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Where is it said that the USA wants Hamas dead? Is it codified in our founding documents?
Hey Shabah... watch bot get dumber by the minute!
Uh, grandpappy, there wasn't any Hamas when the U.S. was founded, mkay?
Sherlock Holmes is alive and well!
Now follow the little bitty steps so you'll understand what the word, "analogy" means.
What does Hamas' founding document say about Israel in it?
Darn, lost his attention.
Let's recap here. Shabah tried to make an analogy between US tax dollars going to Palestine = tariffs Israel collects in the name of the PA. Shabah says that if it is okay for Israel to withhold transfer of the tariffs then it is equal to Hamas NOT returning money that the USA collected from taxes in America and donated o the PA.
Now leaving aside the issue of the origin of the money, I asked whether the founding docs of our Constitution say anything in them about destroying Hamas (or any other country, for that matter). The answer is no, we are not a country founded for the purpose of destruction. Hamas does and is. This is a fundamental difference between the two arguments and thus, the analogy fails. It also fails on the origin of the money.
So, why should israel give money to an entity that was founded on the principle of destroying Israel?
The money does not belong to Hamas.
I repeat, go find out how actually Hamas was founded, not what you have been told. Is that difficult to do or do you usually take the words of your all mighty feeder of truths????????
I found the translation of the Hamas Covenant a rich source of information. I've just been skimming it for now. Here's one of my favorites just briefly.
The Zionist invasion is a vicious invasion. It does not refrain from resorting to all methods, using all evil and contemptible ways to achieve its end. It relies greatly in its infiltration and espionage operations on the secret organizations it gave rise to, such as the Freemasons, The Rotary and Lions clubs, and other sabotage groups. All these organizations, whether secret or open, work in the interest of Zionism and according to its instructions. They aim at undermining societies, destroying values, corrupting consciences, deteriorating character and annihilating Islam. It is behind the drug trade and alcoholism in all its kinds so as to facilitate its control and expansion."
Dang, the Jews are behind that menace to Islam, the Rotary Club!
Sweet holy Jesus, I feel compelled to strap dynamite to my chest and blow-up a bus!
Have I denied that Hamas is a group comprised of largely people that should have been removed from the gene pool?
They are not boy scouts and I would not personally eat dinner with any of them for fear of chocking on their lies or have a knife plung as I turn around....
Hamas however if you dig deep was an Israeli invention that went wrong, who's fault is that? the people who will not be able to get what's due to them in taxes?????
Is this is a nother campaign of chocking the life out off the palestinians, I am afraid that it will back fire and will make them more resolute to do stupid shit in the name of freedom or what not... Even the Israeli people do not deserve misery.
Instead of lookig for ways to make each one suffer why not look for ways to save that region? Israelis and Palestinians can live side by side if we all pressure them. Yo9u can't get the bully on either side to play along if you encourage one and corner the other...
I don't give a flip about Israel one way or the other, except in general, I don't care for theocracies of any sort.
As you obviously know, because you are not stupid (unlike your lackey) there are many people who believe that the formation of Israel is legal and legitimate. After all, it was under the aegis of the paragon of virtue, the UN. I believe that the non-Israeli Palestinians have a legitimate beef with Israel.
Israel is also a fact, not a theory. The gov of Israel is surrounded by unfriendly neighbors and infiltrated by murdering bastards. Hamas, by public word and proud deed, is a group that maintains a wing of murdering bastards. That too is fact, not a theory.
I doubt Israel spends a dime of the money. I'll bet it goes into an escrow account somewhere awaiting the new Palestinian government's pledge not to send their murdering bastards into Israel.
Is that the optimal solution? I don't know, but it is sure as heck better than giving millions of dollars to people who's covenant is based on the destruction of Israel.
Strategies and Methods
Strategies of the Islamic Resistance Movement: Palestine Is Isalmic aqf:
The Islamic Resistance Movement believes that the land of Palestine is an Islamic Waqf consecrated for future Moslem generations until Judgement Day. It, or any part of it, should not be squandered: it, or any part of it, should not be given up. Neither a single Arab country nor all Arab countries, neither any king or president, nor all the kings and presidents, neither any organization nor all of them, be they Palestinian or Arab, possess the right to do that. Palestine is an Islamic Waqf land consecrated for Moslem generations until Judgement Day. This being so, who could claim to have the right to represent Moslem generations till Judgement Day?
This is the law governing the land of Palestine in the Islamic Sharia (law) and the same goes for any land the Moslems have conquered by force, because during the times of (Islamic) conquests, the Moslems consecrated these lands to Moslem generations till the Day of Judgement.
It happened like this: When the leaders of the Islamic armies conquered Syria and Iraq, they sent to the Caliph of the Moslems, Umar bin-el-Khatab, asking for his advice concerning the conquered land - whether they should divide it among the soldiers, or leave it for its owners, or what? After consultations and discussions between the Caliph of the Moslems, Omar bin-el-Khatab and companions of the Prophet, Allah bless him and grant him salvation, it was decided that the land should be left with its owners who could benefit by its fruit. As for the real ownership of the land and the land itself, it should be consecrated for Moslem generations till Judgement Day. Those who are on the land, are there only to benefit from its fruit. This Waqf remains as long as earth and heaven remain. Any procedure in contradiction to Islamic Sharia, where Palestine is concerned, is null and void.
"Verily, this is a certain truth. Wherefore praise the name of thy Lord, the great Allah." (The Inevitable - verse 95).