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Historian sentenced to jail for holocaust remarks

In the west, our vaunted 'free speech' applies if you want to publish a cartoon of Mohammed as a terrorist, but if you offend a privileged group, you get thrown in prison.

Austria sentences Irving to 3 years
Mon Feb 20, 2006 7:44 PM GMT

By Mark Heinrich

VIENNA (Reuters) - An Austrian court sentenced historian David Irving to three years in prison on Monday for denying the Holocaust during a 1989 stopover in Austria, dismissing his argument that he had changed his views.

Irving pleaded guilty, hoping for a suspended sentence, but the Vienna criminal court concluded he was only making a pretence of acknowledging Nazi Germany's genocide against Jews in order to escape a jail term.

"The court did not consider the defendant to have genuinely changed his mind," presiding judge Peter Liebetreu told the court after pronouncing the sentence.

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And people think our courts are bad.Lesson 1 When in other countries keep your mouth shut.

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Oh no he de int... (he didn't)
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This is very bad news,particularly in what it says for European Union membership.This may turn out to be a show trial,which will be overruled by the European Court Of Human Rights.The guy is stupid and misguided but freedom of speech is freedom of speech.The anti-Nazi laws were established in Austria amidst the immediate aftershock of the war.They themselves clearly are overdue for revision.[|)]

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The guy is British and he is going to jail in Austria, someone help me understand this??????
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The guy is British and he is going to jail in Austria, someone help me understand this??????
He dared to utter the naughty words whilst visiting Austria back in '89. Therefore within their jurisdiction they say.
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This should uphold Austria's squeaky clean image as a Jew friendly nation. Me thinkith they doth protetht to mut-th.


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The guy is British and he is going to jail in Austria, someone help me understand this??????
He dared to utter the naughty words whilst visiting Austria back in '89. Therefore within their jurisdiction they say.
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Shiiit, this means I could go to jail too eventhough I am not denying the holocaust but I am not a fan of Israeli occupation and their misstreatment of Palestinians. Maybe I should change my tune and start praising this world power before I get my ass in some jail to oblivion...
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So what. Bush Co. would have done the same thing. Okay, that maybe a tad harsh, let's just say Bush Co. would have done the same thing if it meant more money in their pockets.
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