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guage I understand why you are afraid. You don't want to be accused of SEDITION if you voiced your true feeling like this lady:
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VA Nurse Investigated for “Sedition� for Criticizing Bush
by Matthew Rothschild


Laura Berg is a clinical nurse specialist at the VA Medical Center in Albuquerque, where she has worked for 15 years.

Shortly after Katrina, she wrote a letter to the editor of the weekly paper the Alibi criticizing the Bush Administration.

After the paper published the letter in its September 15-21 issue, VA administrators seized her computer, alleged that she had written the letter on that computer, and accused her of “sedition.�

Here’s what her letter said.

“I am furious with the tragically misplaced priorities and criminal negligence of this government,� it began. “The Katrina tragedy in the U.S. shows that the emperor has no clothes!� She mentioned that she was “a VA nurse� working with returning vets. “The public has no sense of the additional devastating human and financial costs of post-traumatic stress disorder,� she wrote, and she worried about the hundreds of thousands of additional cases that might result from Katrina and the Iraq War.

“Bush, Cheney, Chertoff, Brown, and Rice should be tried for criminal negligence,� she wrote. “This country needs to get out of Iraq now and return to our original vision and priorities of caring for land and people and resources rather than killing for oil. . . . We need to wake up and get real here, and act forcefully to remove a government administration playing games of smoke and mirrors and vicious deceit.

Otherwise, many more of us will be facing living hell in these times.�

After her computer was seized, Berg wrote a memo to her bosses seeking information and an explanation.

Mel Hooker, chief of the human resources management service at the Albuquerque VA, wrote Berg back on November 9 and acknowledged that “your personal computer files did not contain the editorial letter written to the editor of the weekly Alibi.�

But rather than apologize, he leveled the sedition charge: “The Agency is bound by law to investigate and pursue any act which potentially represents sedition,� he said. “In your letter . . . you declared yourself ‘as a VA nurse’ and publicly declared the Government which employs you to have ‘tragically misplaced priorities and criminal negligence’ and advocated, ‘act forcefully to remove a government administration playing games of smoke and mirrors and vicious deceit.’ �

Berg, who is not talking to the press, is “scared for her job� and “pretty emotionally distressed,� says Peter Simonson, executive director of the ACLU of New Mexico.

“We were shocked to see the word ‘sedition’ used,� Simonson tells The Progressive. “Sedition? That’s like something out of the history books.�

In a press release, Simonson also said: “Is this government so jealous of its power, so fearful of dissent, that it needs to threaten people who openly oppose its policies with charges of ‘sedition’?�

The ACLU of New Mexico is working in Berg’s behalf. It has filed a Freedom of Information Act request for documents relating to this incident. And it is asking “at the very least� that Berg “receive a pubic apology from Mr. Hooker to remedy the unconstitutional chilling effect on the speech of VA employees that has resulted from these intimidating tactics,� according to a letter from the New Mexico ACLU to the VA’s Office of Regional Counsel.

Hooker refused to return a phone call, and the VA’s Office of Regional Counsel refused to comment but referred questions to public affairs.

"While VA does not prohibit employees from exercising their freedom of speech, we do ask that such activity occurs outside government premises and not during their official tour of duty,� says Bill Armstrong, a public affairs specialist for New Mexico’s VA Health Care System. “When we have reason to believe that this policy is not being adhered to, we have the obligation to review an individual's computer activity."

The VA in Washington also refused to comment on the sedition charge.

“We don’t discuss internal personnel issues,� says Phil Budahn, a VA spokesman in Washington, D.C.

Berg has an additional concern: that the VA may have got the FBI on her case.

A union employee “shared with me that Mel Hooker conveyed to him that my letter had been reported ‘up through VA channels’ to the FBI in Washington, and that this had been discussed and confirmed� with union officials at the national office, Berg wrote in her November 2 complaint. (The union she belongs to is the American Federation of Government Employees.)

Hooker denied that the VA had contacted the FBI. “The Agency has no knowledge of any report alleged to have been made to the FBI regarding you or your letter,� he said in his November 9 memo.

Meanwhile, Senator Jeff Bingaman, Democrat of New Mexico, has taken up the Berg case.

“I am writing to express my deep concern regarding news reports that Ms. Laura Berg . . . was investigated for sedition after writing a letter that was critical of the current Administration,� Senator Bingaman wrote to R. James Nicholson, Secretary of Veterans Affairs, on February 7. “In a democracy, expressing disagreement with the government’s actions does not amount to sedition or insurrection—it is, and must remain, protected speech.�
Another attack that must be foiled by this administration... No one should voice concern or criticize your government, I understand your fear guage, your country is starting to resemble mine....
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Farts, just like your royal serfs that's all you can come up with... Just read this article and see how your king foiled yet another attack:
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Published on Friday, February 10, 2006 by The Nation
Jose Bove's Not Welcome in Bush's USA
by John Nichols


Few figures have contributed more to the debate about corporate globalization than Jose Bove, the French farmer whose dismantling of a McDonald's restaurant that was under construction near his sheep farm was something of a "shot-heard-round-the-world" in the struggle against the homogenization of food, culture and lifestyles.

While his assault on the local manifestation of the restaurant chain that has come to symbolize the one-size-fits-all character of globalization was a blunt act, Bove is known in France and abroad as a thoughtful theorist and strategist whose critique of the World Trade Organization's pro-corporate agenda has done much to alert activists around the world to the threats posed to workers, farmers, communities and democracy by WTO moves that allow multinational firms to disregard the laws and traditions of countries in which they operate.

But Bove, who has been a frequent visitor to the United States since he played an important part in the 1999 anti-WTO demonstrations in Seattle, is no longer welcome in George W. Bush's America.

When he arrived Wednesday at New York's JFK Airport on a trip that was supposed to take him to Cornell University's School of Industrial and Labor Relations for events sponsored by Cornell's Global Labor Institute, Bove was stopped by U.S. Customs and Border Protection agents who told him he was suddenly "ineligible" to enter the U.S. Before the night was done, Bove was hustled onto an Air France flight that returned him to his homeland.

Why can't Bove, one of the most influential political activists on the planet, speak in the U.S.?

According to Bove, the agents told him he was being denied entry because of his past prosecutions for "moral crimes."

The French activist's "crimes" may have been motivated by a deep sense of morality. But they were, more precisely, political acts, usually involving nonviolent civil disobedience or symbolic gestures meant to raise the awareness of the French regarding globalization -- most notably the 1999 dismantling of the restaurant McDonald's was developing in Millau, a community in southern France that is not far from the cooperative farm where Bove has lived and worked for decades.

And Bove's political views are not in synch with those of a president who used his recent State of the Union address to talk up his commitment to globalization with a corporate face.

Bove does not for a second believe that the U.S. officials who blocked his entry were concerned about morality, or particular "crimes." Rather, he suggested to reporters on Wednesday evening, the militantly pro-free trade Bush administration has found a new avenue to constrain the debate about its policies.

"I think this administration is crazy," Bove explained. "They don't want any discussion that can affect all the things going on with globalization. They don't want people coming from outside to discuss it."

Coming at a time when the Bush administration faces scrutiny for warrantless wiretapping and other assaults on basic liberties, when new evidence of domestic spying on dissidents surfaceson a regular basis, and when we just witnessed the removal of anti-war activist Cindy Sheehan from the Capitol before the president delivered his State of the Union address, that's hardly an unreasonable claim.

Certainly, it is a matter that merits a Congressional inquiry -- not just into this incident but into the whole question of whether customs and border operations have, like so many other functions of the federal government, been abused for political purposes by an administration that is far more committed to advancing the agenda of its corporate contributors that it is to respecting the rule of law.
© 2006 The Nation
Your kind do not like outsider's opinion because you are afraid that they will vendicate your own "decenters", the ones that did not fall for the party line like you did...
What citizenship do you hold?

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Again, if you are asking because maybe I should poke my nose in my own business then I urge your compatriots to do the same, until then any shit you throw our way it going to hit our "ignorant" fan and smear you as well.... You can't have it your way unless you insist...
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I'm going now to Hampton,Ia for my daughters basketball game.
Soon I'll be standing with my right hand, on the left side of my chest.
Standing proud as the band plays my national anthem.
I'll also be thanking the LORD for every opportunity he has given.
I am going to Abu-Graib to consult with my case officer and maybe get my nuts fried for fun.
Soon I will be standing with my right hand, on my groin doing the Michael Jackson.
Standing stiff as the GIs crank up the juice.
I will also be thanking Allah for every misery I have been given.
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Again, if you are asking because maybe I should poke my nose in my own business then I urge your compatriots to do the same, until then any shit you throw our way it going to hit our "ignorant" fan and smear you as well.... You can't have it your way unless you insist...
Are you ashamed of your citizenship? Thta's the only reason I can imagine that anybody would hide it.

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Again, if you are asking because maybe I should poke my nose in my own business then I urge your compatriots to do the same, until then any shit you throw our way it going to hit our "ignorant" fan and smear you as well.... You can't have it your way unless you insist...
Are you ashamed of your citizenship? Thta's the only reason I can imagine that anybody would hide it.

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Have I ever hidden it?????????
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What citizenship do you hold?

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Again, if you are asking because maybe I should poke my nose in my own business then I urge your compatriots to do the same, until then any shit you throw our way it going to hit our "ignorant" fan and smear you as well.... You can't have it your way unless you insist...
Are you ashamed of your citizenship? Thta's the only reason I can imagine that anybody would hide it.

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Have I ever hidden it?????????
Why are you being coy?

Come on, I wont tell. Where do you hold citizenship?
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Shabah .............
What citizenship do you hold?

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Again, if you are asking because maybe I should poke my nose in my own business then I urge your compatriots to do the same, until then any shit you throw our way it going to hit our "ignorant" fan and smear you as well.... You can't have it your way unless you insist...
Are you ashamed of your citizenship? Thta's the only reason I can imagine that anybody would hide it.

Bot
Have I ever hidden it?????????
Why are you being coy?

Come on, I wont tell. Where do you hold citizenship?
You sound like one of those perverts asking an underaged girl/boy some favor... Bot snap out of it, that's a pathetic request.
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