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I think it takes two to tango. Fundamentalism is the infinite yellow brick road to rageville. Definitives rule this town between the river styx.
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Fundamentalism is the infinite yellow brick road to rageville.
Primitive religious tribalism is responsible for much of the hatred and violence in the world today. Zionists in particular have proven all too happy to sacrifice the health, wealth, and safety of the United States in support of their narrow tribalist agenda. It's ironic at best that the U.S. would support something so antithetical to its own purported principles. This is where media collusion comes in. And it's why the tribalists are so terrified of the free exchange of information on the Internet. Because that free exchange carries with it the possibility that Americans will finally learn what's actually going on in the world outside their borders.


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Well said. And not taken to the extreme as so many do here.
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Fundamentalism is the infinite yellow brick road to rageville.
Primitive religious tribalism is responsible for much of the hatred and violence in the world today. Zionists in particular have proven all too happy to sacrifice the health, wealth, and safety of the United States in support of their narrow tribalist agenda. It's ironic at best that the U.S. would support something so antithetical to its own purported principles. This is where media collusion comes in. And it's why the tribalists are so terrified of the free exchange of information on the Internet. Because that free exchange carries with it the possibility that Americans will finally learn what's actually going on in the world outside their borders.

Again you show your true colors. The Jews are the chosen people for a reason, they are to be respected for their safety lies the salvation we will need on the last days of this planet. Go read the scripture or watch Pat or Beny Hinn telling it as it is.
So stop this nonsense of "Zionism" as the bad evil guy thirsty for your resources at your expenses. This is a worn out story from the Nazi era.
Remember this, Israel always looks out for the interest of the US first. It never did otherwise.
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Remember this, Israel always looks out for the interest of the US first. It never did otherwise.
Just one of countless examples to the contrary:
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Chinese F-8s carried Israeli missiles

By CNN National Security Producer Chris Plante

WASHINGTON (CNN) -- Chinese fighter jets sent to intercept recent U.S. reconnaissance flights near China have been carrying air-to-air missiles sold to China by Israel, much to the annoyance of some U.S. defense officials.

The Chinese F-8 fighters captured on videotapes released by the Pentagon are carrying Israeli made Python III air-to-air missiles capable of blasting a plane out of the sky with the squeeze of a finger, the Pentagon said Tuesday.

"Generally speaking, we are not in favor of such capable weapons systems being proliferated to a variety of nations around the world," Pentagon spokesman Rear Adm. Craig Quigley told reporters Tuesday.

"That's a good missile, and its capabilities are considerable," Quigley said.

A senior defense official familiar with arms agreements between the United States and Israel said "there has not been any violation here," perhaps in part because the sale of the missiles was made in the late 1970s, he said.

The official, who spoke on the condition that he not be named, said "We don't particularly like going up against hardware made by Israel."

"Here we are bending over backward to give Israel a qualitative edge and they are selling hardware to our adversaries," the somewhat exasperated defense official said.

Referring to the April 1 incident involving a collision between a Chinese fighter jet and a U.S. Navy EP-3 surveillance plane, the Defense Department official said that the decades-old Israeli missiles "would have worked just fine" had the second Chinese fighter been given the order to shoot down the U.S. plane with its crew of 24.

Though the sale of the missiles was years ago, the United States was not made aware of Israel's plans to sell the missiles to China until after the sale was complete, according to the Pentagon.

Quigley said that "..the government of Israel informed the government of the United States that they had sold the Python missile to the Chinese after the sale had been done."

Israel had agreed last year to sell China a technologically advanced airborne early warning radar system similar the U.S. AWACS aircraft.


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You are right GMGOODNUFF. I am running right now to get some red meat, in this red state, in my red SUV, with my red face as I worry about the nefarious diversity I might have to encounter at the SuperDuperEatYourAssWideGroceryMeatMarketForRedSta tesSuperStoreThatIsAllAmericanExceptForProductAndG odBless.
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Nothing that drastic is needed, just some balance. Israel should still be supported, just not as blindly as in the past. Our blatant bias is part of the reason we are in this terroristic bullseye.

Muslims have been hell bent on destroying Israel from the start. Without US support the crazy Islamic dictatorships of the Middle East would have wiped Israel off the map.
And until the late 70s there wasn't an Arab country that even recognized their existence.
The Arab world always needs something to blame other than themselves for their oppression, poverty, and depravity.
You proved my point beautifully. Thank you.

So you agree?
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Remember this, Israel always looks out for the interest of the US first. It never did otherwise.
Just one of countless examples to the contrary:
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Chinese F-8s carried Israeli missiles

By CNN National Security Producer Chris Plante

WASHINGTON (CNN) -- Chinese fighter jets sent to intercept recent U.S. reconnaissance flights near China have been carrying air-to-air missiles sold to China by Israel, much to the annoyance of some U.S. defense officials.

The Chinese F-8 fighters captured on videotapes released by the Pentagon are carrying Israeli made Python III air-to-air missiles capable of blasting a plane out of the sky with the squeeze of a finger, the Pentagon said Tuesday.

"Generally speaking, we are not in favor of such capable weapons systems being proliferated to a variety of nations around the world," Pentagon spokesman Rear Adm. Craig Quigley told reporters Tuesday.

"That's a good missile, and its capabilities are considerable," Quigley said.

A senior defense official familiar with arms agreements between the United States and Israel said "there has not been any violation here," perhaps in part because the sale of the missiles was made in the late 1970s, he said.

The official, who spoke on the condition that he not be named, said "We don't particularly like going up against hardware made by Israel."

"Here we are bending over backward to give Israel a qualitative edge and they are selling hardware to our adversaries," the somewhat exasperated defense official said.

Referring to the April 1 incident involving a collision between a Chinese fighter jet and a U.S. Navy EP-3 surveillance plane, the Defense Department official said that the decades-old Israeli missiles "would have worked just fine" had the second Chinese fighter been given the order to shoot down the U.S. plane with its crew of 24.

Though the sale of the missiles was years ago, the United States was not made aware of Israel's plans to sell the missiles to China until after the sale was complete, according to the Pentagon.

Quigley said that "..the government of Israel informed the government of the United States that they had sold the Python missile to the Chinese after the sale had been done."

Israel had agreed last year to sell China a technologically advanced airborne early warning radar system similar the U.S. AWACS aircraft.


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Isreal is a much needed allay in the middle east. They are the only democracy and share most of the values the the US has.

On the other hand Isreal (like any country) looks out for their interests first. If their defence industry can make money selling arms they will (at least to most countries). While not a transfer of technology from Isreal. The US has sold weapons to countries that Isreal is concerned about.
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Just an update about the two guys from AIPAC that got involved in the latest spy case: Foxman from the ADL said "Rosen and Weissman, he said, "are two patriotic American citizens working for a Jewish organization, who did nothing to violate the American security." (Source: http://www.haaretz.com/hasen/spages/673472.html )

So you see, no harm done. We must all call our congressmen to free Larry Franklin, he does not deserve 12 years of jail time.

Let's make sure that congress understands who is trully in charge of Washington!
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Oh we need to free Pollard while we are at it. Come on people work the phones!
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