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post #81 of 113 (permalink) Old 01-23-2006, 07:25 PM Thread Starter
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I agree, full and immediate disclosure of every dollar.
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I like the first offering the best. The other one is too much like it is now, except that failure to disclose the bribes will be the crime, which will be even harder to enforce than the laws against bribery that exist today. I was thinking everyone gets a budget who meets some qualifications, like signatories on a petition. Same budget to spend however they want. If you have a message, spend it on getting the message heard. If not, spend it on whatever. But you all get the same amount of money, so having more money can't change the odds of success. Jim
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I like the first offering the best. The other one is too much like it is now, except that failure to disclose the bribes will be the crime, which will be even harder to enforce than the laws against bribery that exist today. I was thinking everyone gets a budget who meets some qualifications, like signatories on a petition. Same budget to spend however they want. If you have a message, spend it on getting the message heard. If not, spend it on whatever. But you all get the same amount of money, so having more money can't change the odds of success. Jim
So we disagree again,
Public financing ,or controlled budget, is a disaster waiting to happen. Candidates favored by the mass media will get favorable coverage, while their opponents will get ignored, or critical coverage. As Will Rogers once remarked, "Never get into an argument with people who buy ing by the barrel" ( or similar). The Supreme Court has already ruled that contributions to politcal campaigns is covered as a 1st amendment Right. Can't reverse a Supreme decision, you know.
Full disclosure from dollar one posted publically, newspapers, mass media, and internet with no front organizations allowed. All contributions must show the actual donor.
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Yeah, sounds great. But money is power and power corrupts and you know the rest. Buying elections is what is wrong. The debate about issues is no longer on the page. We no longer vote for the person, we vote for a media myth created by media messages. Soon enough we will have a horse in the Senate, backed by big money. Media messaging is the tool and it is for sale. I get the issue and understand your perspective. It just won't make things better. It is a vote for status quo. Which isn't all bad, but it is obviously corrupt. Jim
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Then lets deal with the corruption. Are you aware that the politicians made it a crime to offer a bribe; but not to accept one?
I disagree with McCain on this, too. He feels that the money is the evil agent, and makes good people do bad things. I believe that people are evil, and when they give in to their evil nature, they do evil things. Hold them responsible for their actions; not their thoughts.
Lets have some corruot politicians do some time behind bars.
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Then lets deal with the corruption. Are you aware that the politicians made it a crime to offer a bribe; but not to accept one?
I disagree with McCain on this, too. He feels that the money is the evil agent, and makes good people do bad things. I believe that people are evil, and when they give in to their evil nature, they do evil things. Hold them responsible for their actions; not their thoughts.
Lets have some corruot politicians do some time behind bars.
Yes.
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Lets have some corruot politicians do some time behind bars.


.....Starting with this renowned feminist and world class swimmer.....



Too bad this young lady couldn't swim as well




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Yawn. You can do better than this. Come on guys, how about a good ol' plantation work song?
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How kind of you to swing this low....

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I believe that people are evil
This little tidbit says far more about you than other people. Your politics are exposed.
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