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The Eternal Jew

Der Ewige Jude (The Eternal Jew) is a film that's banned in Germany.

It's the national socialist propaganda film "The Eternal Jew" which is probably the single source, which clearly demonstrates the hatred of Nazism towards the Jews.

It shows in word, picture and sound exactly what it was that Adolf Hitler and Joseph Goebbels wanted the German public to associate with the word "Jew".

Today the film is very much available in the USA, protected under the 1st Amendment. I doubt you'll find it at blockbuster, but you probably can find it listed in college media libraries.

It's a real eye opener to see just how easily people can be brainwashed by evil and corrupt leaders (unless you think Hitler was a sweet old man).

The same tactics of brainwashing are being used today by you know who. Replace Hitler with Bush and Jew with Muslim. I guess the student has learned well from his teacher.
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or replace Martyrs Brigade with Hitler and muslims with Germans.

Its the same thing. No sane muslim youth really believes blowing up innocent jews/iraquis in the name of Allah is true. They are just as brainwashed, and their poorer families are made sums of money too.

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I know where you are going with this Brent. No sir there is no parallelism. You see Israelis are like us because they share the same values we do, Arabs on the other hand are weird and have no concept of what it takes to get themselves out off the Middle-Ages. You can't mix the two. What we really need to do in the end is to invade the whole shebang then put Israel in charge to corral those children properly. Please next time don't bring up Nazism as a platform for your idea, it's offensive to us as a civilized group who understand suffering unlike those Arabs that seem to enjoy inflicting it.
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It seems Hitler & the gang is the standard in which to judge good from evil. His ideology was initially based on love of country whereas our sandy friends religious Fatwa's have no real borders. Not really a good comparison.

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After you call someone "Hitler" what else can you do for emphasis?
The hyperbole of the debate makes it very difficult to have an intelligent conversation becasue the emotions are turned to so high a level.
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Replace Hitler with Bush and Jew with Muslim.
Big problem with your analogy. First, Judaism is a relatively small group of people compared to Muslims. Hitler was insane, but I doubt even he would have tried to pick a fight with the second largest religion in the world.
Secondly, Bush seems to go to great ends to speak of Islam as a "religon of peace". Also, there is the fact that he has Muslims in his administration.
Third, Bush is a Christian. and the last time Christians
wanted to exterminate Muslims was 1,000 years ago. Notably, since that time, and especially in founding of America, mainstream Christans have promoted a freedom of religion pollicy. (BTW, this is quite different than theocratic states of Islam)
Hitler hated Christians. He put Catholics and Protestants to death in greater numbers than Jews.

But, I'd like to see the movie.

Admit it, we all have a little bit of Eric Cartman in us.
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From BBC

Hamza attacked 'sugar daddy West'

Mr Abu Hamza claimed Israel had files on Western politicians

Controversial cleric Abu Hamza al-Masri accused Western leaders of being sugar daddies to Israel because they were being blackmailed, his trial has heard.
"Jews know how to control people. This is how they know how to control our leaders," he said in a sermon, played on videotape to the Old Bailey jury.

He also criticised the "dogs of the West" for not condemning Israel.

The 47-year-old, from west London, denies 15 charges, including soliciting murder and inciting racial hatred.

Jurors on the fourth day of Mr Abu Hamza's trial heard him tell a crowd: "Now all these dogs of the West they have to go now, none of them have condemned what Israel has done to the Muslims and the Palestinians.

"But as soon as three soldiers snatched from South Lebanon and some of them are being killed in Palestine they all go to their hands and knees - Robin Cook [the late former foreign secretary] to go there on his hands and knees, even Clinton [former US president]."

"Why they act like sugar daddy for Israel? Because they love the Israelis? No way!

"Because they hate them very much, but the Israelis know how to deal with them.

"They got a file for each one of these politicians, how much homosexual you are, how many money he has taken as bribe, whom his wife goes with, which child he has been abusing and they got all this against them.

"Jews know how to control people. This is how they know how to control our leaders."

In the video of the sermon, given in October 2000, Mr Abu Hamza said Muslims could not have a peace treaty with Jews - Allah had said that Muslims had placed enmity among them until judgment day.

"They are enemies to one another and Allah has cursed them," he said.

Whether you do it by the lamb, or you do it by a Serb, you do it by a Jew, you do it by any enemies of Allah

Abu Hamza al-Masri
Video shown to court

"This is why he send Hitler for them. Jews they have nowhere to go, they are going to be buried in Palestine all of them."

He went on to tell his audience that there was no liquid loved more by Allah "than the liquid of blood".

"Whether you do it by the lamb, or you do it by a Serb, you do it by a Jew, you do it by any enemies of Allah," he said.

That drop of blood "is very dear".

Mr Abu Hamza faces nine charges under the Offences Against the Person Act 1861 alleging that he solicited others at public meetings to murder Jews and other non-Muslims.

He also faces four charges under the Public Order Act 1986 of "using threatening, abusive or insulting words or behaviour with the intention of stirring up racial hatred".

A further charge alleges he was in possession of video and audio recordings, which he intended to distribute to stir up racial hatred.

The final charge, under section 58 of the Terrorism Act, accuses him of possession of a document, the Encyclopaedia of the Afghani Jihad, which contained information "of a kind likely to be useful to a person committing or preparing an act of terrorism".

He denies all charges. The trial continues.

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Hamza attacked 'sugar daddy West'

Mr Abu Hamza claimed Israel had files on Western politicians

Controversial cleric Abu Hamza al-Masri accused Western leaders of being sugar daddies to Israel because they were being blackmailed, his trial has heard.
"Jews know how to control people. This is how they know how to control our leaders," he said in a sermon, played on videotape to the Old Bailey jury.

He also criticised the "dogs of the West" for not condemning Israel.

The 47-year-old, from west London, denies 15 charges, including soliciting murder and inciting racial hatred.

Jurors on the fourth day of Mr Abu Hamza's trial heard him tell a crowd: "Now all these dogs of the West they have to go now, none of them have condemned what Israel has done to the Muslims and the Palestinians.

"But as soon as three soldiers snatched from South Lebanon and some of them are being killed in Palestine they all go to their hands and knees - Robin Cook [the late former foreign secretary] to go there on his hands and knees, even Clinton [former US president]."

"Why they act like sugar daddy for Israel? Because they love the Israelis? No way!

"Because they hate them very much, but the Israelis know how to deal with them.

"They got a file for each one of these politicians, how much homosexual you are, how many money he has taken as bribe, whom his wife goes with, which child he has been abusing and they got all this against them.

"Jews know how to control people. This is how they know how to control our leaders."

In the video of the sermon, given in October 2000, Mr Abu Hamza said Muslims could not have a peace treaty with Jews - Allah had said that Muslims had placed enmity among them until judgment day.

"They are enemies to one another and Allah has cursed them," he said.

Whether you do it by the lamb, or you do it by a Serb, you do it by a Jew, you do it by any enemies of Allah

Abu Hamza al-Masri
Video shown to court

"This is why he send Hitler for them. Jews they have nowhere to go, they are going to be buried in Palestine all of them."

He went on to tell his audience that there was no liquid loved more by Allah "than the liquid of blood".

"Whether you do it by the lamb, or you do it by a Serb, you do it by a Jew, you do it by any enemies of Allah," he said.

That drop of blood "is very dear".

Mr Abu Hamza faces nine charges under the Offences Against the Person Act 1861 alleging that he solicited others at public meetings to murder Jews and other non-Muslims.

He also faces four charges under the Public Order Act 1986 of "using threatening, abusive or insulting words or behaviour with the intention of stirring up racial hatred".

A further charge alleges he was in possession of video and audio recordings, which he intended to distribute to stir up racial hatred.

The final charge, under section 58 of the Terrorism Act, accuses him of possession of a document, the Encyclopaedia of the Afghani Jihad, which contained information "of a kind likely to be useful to a person committing or preparing an act of terrorism".

He denies all charges. The trial continues.
This is bullcrap, there is no way our leaders are controlled by anyone. They are elected by us and for us. This just shows the ignorance that Muslims wallow in and the thirst for blood and the yearning for spilling it.
We have no foreign lobbies that control, bribe or suggest international political direction. That’s why we have congress with the backing of legitimate think tanks with very eminent thinkers like Wolfowitz, Kristol etc. These are people that are well educated and have full allegiance to our country. We are in good hands.
As I said earlier, we need to abolish these speeches when they are uttered from these kinds of people. At least our Nazis are harmless unlike all those Muslims that actually want to do us harm. We need to clean house and stop these unfounded accusations that we are being manipulated by some foreign country like Israel. They have never harmed us and never will.
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The same tactics of brainwashing are being used today by you know who. Replace Hitler with Bush and Jew with Muslim. I guess the student has learned well from his teacher.
Who's name are you going to insert after "08"?
Or you didn't think that far ahead?
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The same tactics of brainwashing are being used today by you know who. Replace Hitler with Bush and Jew with Muslim. I guess the student has learned well from his teacher.
Who's name are you going to insert after "08"?
Or you didn't think that far ahead?
Yeha, you tell him because he is only fixated on our president rather than after his term. Good point guage!
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