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DNA confirms executed man GUILTY!

By Richard Willing, USA TODAY

DNA test results announced Thursday confirmed the guilt of Roger Coleman, a Virginia coal miner executed in 1992 for the rape and murder of his sister-in-law.Coleman died declaring his innocence in Wanda McCoy's slaying in 1981 and predicting that one day he would be exonerated.

His case became a cause célèbre for death penalty opponents, who lobbied Virginia Gov. Mark Warner to order DNA tests that had not yet been perfected at the time of Coleman's death. Warner agreed to the tests last month.Coleman's supporters, led by James McCloskey, director of a New Jersey-based prison ministry, said they were certain the DNA tests would be the first scientific proof that an innocent man had been executed in the USA. They said Virginia courts had barred Coleman from presenting evidence that a neighbor committed the crime.Instead, the police lab in Ontario, Canada, that performed the test found only a 1-in-19-million chance that the blood and semen found at the crime scene was not Coleman's.

"We who seek the truth must live or die by the sword of DNA," McCloskey said. "This particular truth feels like a kick in the stomach."

Michael McGlothlin, a Grundy, Va., lawyer who prosecuted the case, said McCloskey and other death penalty opponents minimized the "overwhelming evidence" against Coleman.

They convinced some media organizations that the boyish, charming Coleman had been "unfairly convicted" by a vengeful small-town jury, McGlothlin said. "The people of Grundy are owed an apology," he said.

Peter Neufeld, co-founder of the Innocence Project, which uses DNA to undo wrongful convictions, said the Coleman case shows there is "no harm" in testing cases in which an executed man claimed innocence. "Whichever way it goes, you get to the truth," Neufeld said.

He asked governors to study the 1,004 executions that have taken place since the Supreme Court restored the death penalty in 1976 for possible DNA testing.
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Joshua Marquis, vice president of the National District Attorneys Association, said Coleman's guilt "gives the lie to the urban myth that there is an epidemic of wrongful convictions."
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RE: DNA confirms executed man GUILTY!

It is a good thing. As much as it would have meant as fuel for anti capital punishment folks, it's good that this guy was guilty of the crimes he was "punished" for. It would have been a real shame if he was not.

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RE: DNA confirms executed man GUILTY!

I heard a commercial today for a new television show, I think is called even justice. it's about people wrongfully imprisoned and this crack team of assholes frees them. the commercial would have you believe that everyone in prison should be set free!
what a crock of shit!

Stay tuned.
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I heard a commercial today for a new television show, I think is called even justice. it's about people wrongfully imprisoned and this crack team of assholes frees them. the commercial would have you believe that everyone in prison should be set free!
what a crock of shit!

Stay tuned.
Yeah. I've seen a similar show on A&E but I can't remeber the name of it. This private detective goes around investigating leads in cases where someone says they are imprisoned wrongly.

My dad was a police officer for 38 years, 26 of them detective. It was amazing to him how they could have someone so clear, cut and dried guilty and the suspect hire a fancy lawyer with the farm and get off! It would piss him off, especially when judges would disallow evidence based on crock of shit technicalities. So when one does get convicted, it's pretty much a good conviction.
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RE: DNA confirms executed man GUILTY!

yeah it sux but as long a human element is involved, theres room for error, misjudment, and deliberate tainting of evidence. I mean shit, if I was the governor responsible for putting a man to death who was innocent, id have to say that I'd cover it up. Not that Im implying that in this case.

Statistically (and I know how much statistics can be used to say anything, but this one is without variables) trial by Jury have been 97% accurate since 1965 based on global first world country data (see, that 'other' variable is gone!) gathered "supreme court" juristiction cases involving violent crime. (i.e., not aremed robbery but attempted mureder, grievous bodily harm, murder etc..)

Lie Detectors, whilst not admissable evidence have proved to be over 99% accurate in any circumstance.

So wouldnt it be a lot cheaper and fairer to fuck off all those overpaid judges (laws unto themselves) lawyers (need i explain?) and other civil servants and maybe spend the dough on education and hospitals?
'Course there's noway the bigwigs would ever allow that to happen...just a thought.

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