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numbers can be manupulated to fit whatever.. here, on the ground though seems that kv's cut and paste is more realistic.. more jobs are being lost then created and the ones created pay a fraction of the ones lost.. lot's of my friends are going through this right now..
Just because a post agrees with your point of view it does not make it more realistic.

If you think you are correct prove my post wrong.

Where is your proff that more jobs are being lost than created and the ones being created pay a fraction of the lost ones?

Please don't let the facts get in the way with the statements you make. How else could you be an uninformed voter and not have to let the pesky truth/facts actually make you think before you cast a vote.

The information I posted comes from a non-partisian site.
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numbers can be manupulated to fit whatever.. here, on the ground though seems that kv's cut and paste is more realistic.. more jobs are being lost then created and the ones created pay a fraction of the ones lost.. lot's of my friends are going through this right now..
Oh yeah, an opinion carries far more weight than actual data because, well, it agrees with you.

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20% HAHA!!!! What are you talking about?
The interest rates have never been that high, since maybe the Great Depression. They got close to that way back in 1980, at 17%, during the Volcker Recession. ALSO, The Federal Reserve is totally independant of the President and Congress, so no one can use these rates for or against Dubya(O how I wish we could though) [:p]
"The Volcker Recession?" When was he president?
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20% HAHA!!!! What are you talking about?
The interest rates have never been that high, since maybe the Great Depression. They got close to that way back in 1980, at 17%, during the Volcker Recession. ALSO, The Federal Reserve is totally independant of the President and Congress, so no one can use these rates for or against Dubya(O how I wish we could though) [:p]
"The Volcker Recession?" When was he president?
He was the chairman of the reserve, like Greenspan is now. Actully, in the late '80s we had the Greenspan Recession too.

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If you limit your view to jobs where you work for someone else, the figures can make it look like there is a loss of good paying jobs. But you need to factor in the new jobs created; the entrepenaurs who invent a job for themselves and just do it.

You are also viewing a small portion of history (post WW2 US) as the norm. That was a time that was very favorable to US industry; all of our ecomonic rivals had been destroyed. The US economic situation was unnaturally good. As we helped the rest of the world rebuild, we cut our own economic throat--not saying that we should have kept the rest of the world in ruins, but our Marshall Plan and other help has enabled those countries to have newer and better technology. Also, remember that inductrial jobs ALWAYS follow the low cost labor--check out the history.
Those middle class US jobs at the steel plants, auto plants, etc, are gone forever. Its is not the fault of any one person, or political party.
The US economic engine is running quite well, there is opportunity available. People need to be flexible about what they will do, but the opportunity is there.
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How'd the other indeces do?

Like say, NASDAQ?

Or the broad-based, S&P 500?

Only a complete nincompoop bases their estimation of strength of a single number, right?

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You would have to be seriously out of touch to not think our economy is far more precarious than it was 6 years ago.
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You would have to be seriously out of touch to not think our economy is far more precarious than it was 6 years ago.
Thats an opinion. What is it based on?
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