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I say Justice is to protect the innocent. We civilians are the innocent, and Ben Ladin is personally responsible for killing innocent Americans. Anyone who divulges information to terrorists be they spies and including media should be held responsible for aiding Ben Ladin and compromising the lives of innocent Americans. Aiding a known terrorist. Additional charges should be brought considering 9-11.


2005 Associated Press.
Sunday, Dec. 18, 2005 10:09 a.m. EST
Sen. John Cornyn: NY Times Endangered U.S. Security

Bush: NSA Surveillance Necessary, Legal
A Republican senator on Saturday accused The New York Times of endangering American security to sell a book by waiting until the day of the terror-fighting Patriot Act reauthorization to report that the government has eavesdropped on people without court-approved warrants.

"At least two senators that I heard with my own ears cited this as a reason why they decided to vote to not allow a bipartisan majority to reauthorize the Patriot Act," said Republican Sen. John Cornyn of Texas. "Well, as it turns out the author of this article turned in a book three months ago and the paper, The New York Times, failed to reveal that the urgent story was tied to a book release and its sale by its author."
Cornyn did not name the senators in his remarks on the Senate floor.
A call to The New York Times' Washington bureau was referred to spokeswoman Catherine Mathis, who could not be reached immediately.

reporter James Risen, who wrote the story, has a book "State of WAR: The Secret History of the CIA and the Bush Administration," coming out in the next few weeks, Cornyn said.

"I think it's a crying shame ... that we find that America's safety is endangered by the potential expiration of the Patriot Act in part because a newspaper has seen fit to release on the night before the vote on the floor on the reauthorization of the Patriot Act as part of a marketing campaign for selling a book," Cornyn said.

Since October 2001, the super-secret National Security Agency has, without court-approved warrants, eavesdropped on the international phone calls and e-mails of people inside the United States. President Bush said Saturday that the White House had kept the congressional leadership informed, which a Republican lawmaker confirmed.

But several senators cited the NSA revelation as a reason to uphold a filibuster on the renewal of the expiring portions of the USA Patriot Act - the domestic anti-terrorism law enacted after the attacks of Sept. 11, 2001 - without getting additional safeguards into the law. Supporters of renewing the law failed to get 60 votes needed to break the filibuster.

Bush on Saturday also attacked the disclosure. "As a result, our enemies have learned information they should not have," Bush said in his weekly radio address. "The unauthorized disclosure of this effort damages our national security and puts our citizens at risk."
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It is nothing new. During the cold war the Soviets reported that western media was their greatest source of intelligence information.

Despite misgivings about the conduct of the media freedom of the press is a good thing.
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Do we prosecute leaks that hurt our troops with as much ferocity as the leaks that embarass the President?
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It is nothing new. During the cold war the Soviets reported that western media was their greatest source of intelligence information.

Despite misgivings about the conduct of the media freedom of the press is a good thing.
Don't get me wrong, I not in favor of censorship.
But we are at war. Some secrets need to be used.
Interception of communications between suspected terrorists in the states by secrete measures is got to be a good thing.
Listening to some schmuck talking dirty to his babe, then no.

Releasing it at a time sensitive to ad the sale of a book?

I would think a leak investigation is on the way.
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Freedom of the press became a liability the instant a profit was to be made from the press... Its not about providing Americans with information as much as it is in maximizing ratings to draw more advertising to garner more PROFIT!

This is an example of news:
3 people received minor injuries today when the widget they were using failed. While using the widget as a hammer, one prong broke off, striking the user and causing a laceration across their hand. Why they were using it as a hammer is unknown.

This is an example of the same as reported by today's "news media"
3 people, who had already suffered from the ravages of the poor economy, caused by the republican coalition to "go-to-war-at-any-costs", were seriously injured today when the widget they were using, manufactured by Widgetco, a company suspected to cut corners in attempts to maximize profits, inexplicably failed, causing the injuries. The multiple lacerations that resulted required immediate medical treatment. Poor consumer instructions, supplied with the device, did not clearly indicate the widget should not be used as a hammer. Experts questioned after the accident stated "The widget, a device clearly heavy enough to drive a nail, would not have broken had sturdier materials been used in its manufacture..." When asked about the obvious flaw in its product, Widgetco executives refused comment.

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An hour ago I was doing my usual meditation with the aid of aluminum foil as a hat and extended antennas to capture my usual conversation with the Zorks of Mutlag. Sure enough I overheard their intention to once and for all invade us instead of strategically putting some of their operatives in different world government… Actually I strongly believe that I am one of them so now I got an ethical dilemma. Do I tell the earthlings of this or remain silent?
Just as a background, the Zorks let us loose on this planet a few thousands years ago as an experiment. Prior to that we used to be their pets and doubled up as livestock too but our constant defecating nature had put a damper on their food chain so they had to either exterminate us or move us somewhere else, and that was the Zorky thing to do…
You see they figured that we were a pest after they had lost many Zorks to all sorts of Mutlagian diseases that we carried around. In a way they have never forgiven for the death of innocent Zorkies. Anyway to make this story short, after having put some distance between us now we have breached such a distance with our radio waves and they are tired of watching howdy dowdy as some of the jokes are actually killing them again…
The Zorks really think that we are actually using some form of WMD to get back at them. They think that they have lost control because their operatives somehow seem to not respond back to the motherland as they either have ended up in asylums because they were found out or have become so powerful that there was no point of being a Zokman commoner. Wait, my medication is wearing off…….
What the hell am I talking about…..
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Genius! I sure hope your rallying cry catches on. Maybe you could encourage Sheehan and Dean to adopt it.

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