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post #61 of 95 (permalink) Old 12-19-2005, 12:46 PM
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Hey Chip, what about the gratuitous 'moron' remark? I saw nothing in Shabah's satirical piece likening Bush to Caeser to warrant that.

Anyway, goodnight to y'all.

You thought that was "satirical"? I didn't. I thought it just hate filled bile and I responded in kind. Give me a substantive point and I won't be so harsh.
Ohhh like I am feeling the harshness and I am going to coward into a corner, gime a break Chip...
You wanted to attack because you thought you could and you are soooo justified. Please get down your arrogant pedestal and go back and read what I wrote and ponder of a minute about how you reacted... When you're done come back and throw more insults if they are warranted.
For now I got go, so I hope to respond in few hours....

There's nothing to ponder. That's the point.
Chip, I believe Fox News is on! Go for it!


Why don't you visit Michael Moore's website? It's probably right in line with your political leanings.
Figures you attack like that, you still did not clarify your point about the new Gaius Caesar Augustus Germanicus... I am waiting!
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Hey Chip, what about the gratuitous 'moron' remark? I saw nothing in Shabah's satirical piece likening Bush to Caeser to warrant that.

Anyway, goodnight to y'all.

You thought that was "satirical"? I didn't. I thought it just hate filled bile and I responded in kind. Give me a substantive point and I won't be so harsh.
Ohhh like I am feeling the harshness and I am going to coward into a corner, gime a break Chip...
You wanted to attack because you thought you could and you are soooo justified. Please get down your arrogant pedestal and go back and read what I wrote and ponder of a minute about how you reacted... When you're done come back and throw more insults if they are warranted.
For now I got go, so I hope to respond in few hours....

There's nothing to ponder. That's the point.
Chip, I believe Fox News is on! Go for it!


Why don't you visit Michael Moore's website? It's probably right in line with your political leanings.
Figures you attack like that, you still did not clarify your point about the new Gaius Caesar Augustus Germanicus... I am waiting!

"Figures you attack like that"? Do you point that out to everyone that trades insults? Or just the ones you'd don't like?


BTW, what clarification do you need? That you have no point other than to do what you just critcized me for, insult someone?



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Why don't you visit Michael Moore's website? It's probably right in line with your political leanings.
Ok.

http://www.michaelmoore.com/books-films/willtheyevertrustusagain/

Recall that earlier generations faced down fascism and communism not just with missiles and tanks, but with sturdy alliances and enduring convictions. They understood that our power alone cannot protect us, nor does it entitle us to do as we please. Instead, they knew that our power grows through its prudent use; our security emanates from the justness of our cause, the force of our example, the tempering qualities of humility and restraint.

-President Barack Obama, 1st Inaugural address
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Why don't you visit Michael Moore's website? It's probably right in line with your political leanings.
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http://www.michaelmoore.com/books-films/willtheyevertrustusagain/


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"Figures you attack like that"? Do you point that out to everyone that trades insults? Or just the ones you'd don't like?


BTW, what clarification do you need? That you have no point other than to do what you just critcized me for, insult someone?


No my point was clear from the beginning... The Iraqi said there was no WMD and that they had complied and had agreed that the UN does its job...
The bottom line, that does not count because you believe that the UN is less credible than Caligula...
Your point was not clear because you got nothing to stand on...So just because I called your emperor for what he is you got offended? Maybe you think I don't have the right to criticize your president because I am an "Arab"? is that it? The fact that he dictates orders that effect's me, my land and even where I should take a dump is none of my business is simply another form of arrogance from your part. DO YOU THINK I HAVE THE RIGHT TO CRITISIZE YOUR PRESIDENT? Just answer this question and I am done, that's all...
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"Figures you attack like that"? Do you point that out to everyone that trades insults? Or just the ones you'd don't like?


BTW, what clarification do you need? That you have no point other than to do what you just critcized me for, insult someone?


No my point was clear from the beginning... The Iraqi said there was no WMD and that they had complied and had agreed that the UN does its job...
The bottom line, that does not count because you believe that the UN is less credible than Caligula...
Your point was not clear because you got nothing to stand on...So just because I called your emperor for what he is you got offended? Maybe you think I don't have the right to criticize your president because I am an "Arab"? is that it? The fact that he dictates orders that effect's me, my land and even where I should take a dump is none of my business is simply another form of arrogance from your part. DO YOU THINK I HAVE THE RIGHT TO CRITISIZE YOUR PRESIDENT? Just answer this question and I am done, that's all...



Wrong. Iraq didn't comply. Frankly we still don't know where the unnaccounted WMDs went.
The UN never said Iraq had complied. In fact that was the whole point of UN chapter 7 resolution 242.
Again, Iraq didn't comply with their disarmament responsibilities. The disagreement in the UN had to with how to deal with the noncompliance.
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"Figures you attack like that"? Do you point that out to everyone that trades insults? Or just the ones you'd don't like?


BTW, what clarification do you need? That you have no point other than to do what you just critcized me for, insult someone?


No my point was clear from the beginning... The Iraqi said there was no WMD and that they had complied and had agreed that the UN does its job...
The bottom line, that does not count because you believe that the UN is less credible than Caligula...
Your point was not clear because you got nothing to stand on...So just because I called your emperor for what he is you got offended? Maybe you think I don't have the right to criticize your president because I am an "Arab"? is that it? The fact that he dictates orders that effect's me, my land and even where I should take a dump is none of my business is simply another form of arrogance from your part. DO YOU THINK I HAVE THE RIGHT TO CRITISIZE YOUR PRESIDENT? Just answer this question and I am done, that's all...



Wrong. Iraq didn't comply. Frankly we still don't know where the unnaccounted WMDs went.
The UN never said Iraq had complied. In fact that was the whole point of UN chapter 7 resolution 242.
Again, Iraq didn't comply with their disarmament responsibilities. The disagreement in the UN had to with how to deal with the noncompliance.
You are twisting the facts. First of all, I said Iraq complied that the UN will do it's job not that they have complied with any resolution. Your boys did not want to give them time because it would have deflated their momentum...
Note: resolution 242 is under chapter 6 not 7.....
Resolution 242 was intended for Israel to withdraw from occupied territories. Chapter 7 has as its heading 'Action with respect to threats to the peace, breaches of the peace, and acts of aggression'.

Edit: Source: http://www.un.org/aboutun/charter/chapter7.htm
Just in case you want to make up some other resolution... next time get your facts straight then come back to show off....
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Here is a list of resolutions related to WMD, this will help you: http://www.globalsecurity.org/wmd/library/news/iraq/un/
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Here is an article to give you some ideas:
http://www.greenpeace.org/international/news/wmd-report-buried

notice this quote: "Iraq's failure to comply with Security Council resolutions, and its alleged failure to reveal information concerning weapons of mass destruction, were among the top reasons given by the US as justifications for invading Iraq." This is what's called a driver...

Remember Hans Blix?: "Dr. Hans Blix, former head of the UN's hunt for chemical and biological weapons in Iraq, has warned against "another epidemic of spin" by the US and UK on the heels of the Kay report. Commenting to The Independent newspaper, Blix said that nothing found by the Iraq Survey Group validated the "serious and current threat" presented by the US and UK before going to war."

How about this comment: "US efforts to secure oil wells were far more intensive than those to protect the IAEA-monitored nuclear facility, which went unguarded in the immediate aftermath of the invasion."

Of course this article must be full of shit since the source is Greenpeace, right?
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How about this master piece?

http://www.odci.gov/nic/speeches_DCIstatement.html

Take your time and read it, this is "an official document" not Greenpeace....


Oh, and this one is just toooooo funy, compare it to what you know now, please don't laugh too hard as you may end up again coughing up some more precious tax dollars :
http://www.odci.gov/nic/special_keyjudgements.html

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