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Democrats Criticize Bush For Saying DeLay's Innocent

By Jonathan Weisman
Washington Post Staff Writer
Friday, December 16, 2005; A04

Democratic leaders sternly criticized President Bush yesterday for saying former House majority leader Tom DeLay (R-Tex.) is innocent of felonious campaign finance abuses, suggesting his comments virtually amounted to jury tampering before DeLay stands trial.

"The president of the United States said a jury does not need to assemble, that Tom DeLay is innocent," said Senate Minority Leader Harry M. Reid (D-Nev.). "To have someone of his stature, the president of the United States, prejudge a case is something I've never seen before."

During an interview Wednesday on the Fox News Channel, Bush was asked whether he believes DeLay is innocent of the charges of money laundering and conspiracy that led to his indictment in Texas and resignation from the House Republican leadership in September. "Yes, I do," the president replied.

That response pushed the White House on the defensive yesterday. Administration officials have repeatedly deflected questions about other legal probes -- especially Special Counsel Patrick J. Fitzgerald's inquiry into the leaking of CIA operative Valerie Plame's name -- by saying they could not comment on ongoing investigations. White House spokesman Scott McClellan called the apparent inconsistency a "presidential prerogative."

"The president was asked a question and he responded to that question in the interview yesterday, and made very clear what his views were," McClellan said. "We don't typically tend to get into discussing legal matters of that nature, but in this instance, the president chose to respond to it. Our policy regarding the Fitzgerald investigation and ongoing legal proceeding is well-known and it remains unchanged."

"Call it a presidential prerogative," he added.

Sen. Charles E. Schumer (D-N.Y.) fired back that Bush's comments on the DeLay investigation should free him to reveal who leaked Plame's name. Conservative columnist Robert D. Novak, who published Plame's identity in July 2003, suggested this week that Bush knows who in the White House leaked it.

Democrats yesterday charged that Republican leaders on both ends of Pennsylvania Avenue are going to extraordinary lengths to protect DeLay. Once the House adjourns for the year, it will not reconvene until the end of January, the latest reassembly since 1933, said House Minority Leader Nancy Pelosi (D-Calif.). Pelosi contends that the timing is designed to protect DeLay from a challenge to his hope of reclaiming his leadership post.

Jessica Boulanger, a spokeswoman for acting Majority Leader Roy Blunt (R-Mo.), said the proposed Jan. 31 return date is only a few days later than those of recent congresses. It is "absolutely false" to say the date was picked with DeLay in mind, she said.

Boulanger said House members are in session unusually late this year, and need time at home. She also said the Senate will devote most of its time to a Supreme Court nomination in January, and thus the House would have little interaction with the other chamber.

Recall that earlier generations faced down fascism and communism not just with missiles and tanks, but with sturdy alliances and enduring convictions. They understood that our power alone cannot protect us, nor does it entitle us to do as we please. Instead, they knew that our power grows through its prudent use; our security emanates from the justness of our cause, the force of our example, the tempering qualities of humility and restraint.

-President Barack Obama, 1st Inaugural address
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Democrats Criticize Bush For Saying DeLay's Innocent

By Jonathan Weisman
Washington Post Staff Writer
Friday, December 16, 2005; A04

Democratic leaders sternly criticized President Bush yesterday for saying former House majority leader Tom DeLay (R-Tex.) is innocent of felonious campaign finance abuses, suggesting his comments virtually amounted to jury tampering before DeLay stands trial.

"The president of the United States said a jury does not need to assemble, that Tom DeLay is innocent," said Senate Minority Leader Harry M. Reid (D-Nev.). "To have someone of his stature, the president of the United States, prejudge a case is something I've never seen before."

During an interview Wednesday on the Fox News Channel, Bush was asked whether he believes DeLay is innocent of the charges of money laundering and conspiracy that led to his indictment in Texas and resignation from the House Republican leadership in September. "Yes, I do," the president replied.

That response pushed the White House on the defensive yesterday. Administration officials have repeatedly deflected questions about other legal probes -- especially Special Counsel Patrick J. Fitzgerald's inquiry into the leaking of CIA operative Valerie Plame's name -- by saying they could not comment on ongoing investigations. White House spokesman Scott McClellan called the apparent inconsistency a "presidential prerogative."

"The president was asked a question and he responded to that question in the interview yesterday, and made very clear what his views were," McClellan said. "We don't typically tend to get into discussing legal matters of that nature, but in this instance, the president chose to respond to it. Our policy regarding the Fitzgerald investigation and ongoing legal proceeding is well-known and it remains unchanged."

"Call it a presidential prerogative," he added.

Sen. Charles E. Schumer (D-N.Y.) fired back that Bush's comments on the DeLay investigation should free him to reveal who leaked Plame's name. Conservative columnist Robert D. Novak, who published Plame's identity in July 2003, suggested this week that Bush knows who in the White House leaked it.

Democrats yesterday charged that Republican leaders on both ends of Pennsylvania Avenue are going to extraordinary lengths to protect DeLay. Once the House adjourns for the year, it will not reconvene until the end of January, the latest reassembly since 1933, said House Minority Leader Nancy Pelosi (D-Calif.). Pelosi contends that the timing is designed to protect DeLay from a challenge to his hope of reclaiming his leadership post.

Jessica Boulanger, a spokeswoman for acting Majority Leader Roy Blunt (R-Mo.), said the proposed Jan. 31 return date is only a few days later than those of recent congresses. It is "absolutely false" to say the date was picked with DeLay in mind, she said.

Boulanger said House members are in session unusually late this year, and need time at home. She also said the Senate will devote most of its time to a Supreme Court nomination in January, and thus the House would have little interaction with the other chamber.
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Go fuck yourself, dip shit.


George W. Bush, on the couch and naming names


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George W. Bush sat down for an interview with Fox News anchor Brit Hume Wednesday, and the result was some sort of political Rorschach test on names in the news.

Sounding more like a psychiatrist than a journalist, Hume began his chat with the president by saying, "I want to ask you about some of the people around you and your relationship with them and how they stand with you." Here's how Bush responded.

On Donald Rumsfeld: "He's done a heck of a job. He's conducted two wars, and at the same time is out to transfer my military from a military that was constructed for the post-Cold War to one that is going to be constructed to fight terrorism." Asked if Rumsfeld will stay through the end of Bush's second term, the president said: "Yes. Well, the end of my term is a long time, but I'll tell you, he's doing a heck of a good job. I have no intention of changing him." Translation: I'm not firing Rumsfeld, but he's outta here. If the equivocation on whether Rumsfeld is staying through the end of the term weren't clue enough, there's the odd use of the present perfect tense in the beginning of the answer -- "He's done a heck of a job." And then there's the use of "heck of a job" itself. Bush said that about FEMA director Michael Brown just before he was sent packing to Margaritaville. What does it mean that Rumsfeld gets two HOAJs? And is anyone else a little frightened when the president starts referring to the U.S. armed forces as "my military"?

Dick Cheney: "You know, the vice president goes through I guess what all people in Washington go through at some time or another. He's got a nasty speculation about whether he's running the government or not running the government, whether I like him or don't like him." How's that again? "All people in Washington" suffer through all sorts of problems -- the traffic sucks, there are never enough snow plows, the Nationals can't find a place to build a stadium -- but not many Washington residents endure "nasty speculation" about whether they're "running the government or not running the government." That particular group is pretty much limited to you and your vice president, sir.

More on Dick Cheney: "And the good thing about Dick Cheney is when he discusses a topic with me and he gives me his advice, I never read about it in the newspaper the next day." Perhaps that's because Bush is reading the wrong newspaper; the Wall Street Journal reported not long ago that Cheney's office tried to stop Bush from nominating Harriet Miers to the Supreme Court.

Karl Rove: Hume asked Bush about reports that he has grown more distant from his chief political advisor. Bush's response: "Somebody said that was recent speculation, and we're still as close as we've ever been. We've been through a lot. When I look back at the presidency and my time in politics, uh, no question Karl had a lot to do with me getting here. And I value his friendship. We're very close." Will these words come back to haunt the president? One might presume that Patrick Fitzgerald isn't working with a new grand jury for nothing, but then one wouldn't be Brit Hume. In the set-up to the question about Rove, Hume said that the president's top political advisor has endured "some trials and tribulations -- and they appear largely to be over now."

Jack Abramoff: "I'm -- you know, the Abramoff -- I'm frankly not all that familiar with a lot that's going on up there on Capitol Hill. But it seems like to me that he was an equal money dispenser, that he was giving money to people in both political parties. Yes, I mean, it's really important for all of us in public life to have the highest of ethics. So we can only trust the American people." Is that because we can't trust the president? Bush would like to portray Abramoff as a congressional problem and an equal-opportunity one at that. But the indicted lobbyist has enjoyed close ties to the president and boasted of raising more than $120,000 for his reelection campaign. And the fact is that Abramoff, his firm and his clients were far more generous to Republicans than to Democrats, in part because Republicans have control in Washington and in part because Abramoff has always been closely aligned with the GOP: He was the president of the College Republicans in the 1980s, and he's close with both Rove and Rep. Tom DeLay.

Tom DeLay: Asked whether he hopes and expects that DeLay will be exonerated so that he can return to his seat as House majority leader, Bush said: "Yes. At least, I don't know whether I'm expecting it. I hope that he will." Asked his opinion of DeLay's prosecutor, Travis County district attorney Ronnie Earle, Bush said: "I'm not going to go there, simply because I want -- I want this trial to be conducted as fairly as possible. And the more politics that are in it, the less likely it's going to be fair." But then Hume asked Bush if he thinks DeLay is innocent, and the president said: "Do I? Yes, I do." Which leads us to ask: Whatever happened to the idea -- so often expressed by someone named George W. Bush -- that you shouldn't go around "prejudging" an ongoing investigation?

-- Tim Grieve

Recall that earlier generations faced down fascism and communism not just with missiles and tanks, but with sturdy alliances and enduring convictions. They understood that our power alone cannot protect us, nor does it entitle us to do as we please. Instead, they knew that our power grows through its prudent use; our security emanates from the justness of our cause, the force of our example, the tempering qualities of humility and restraint.

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SHIT - I thought you had gone back the rock you crawled out from...... sad to see you have returned :(
That's funny, I thought the same thing about your post. Now go find something smart to say.

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That's funny, I thought the same thing about your post. Now go find something smart to say.
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Nothing but insults. How about actually addressing the content of the post? Bush refuses to answer questions on the Plame investigation, because it is "an ongoing investigation" - while he leaves men like Rove, who are obvious felons, in office. But then we have an "ongoing investigation" of Delay, and Bush is out extolling his innocence to the national press. Is he a hypocrite, or what? Since the answer is obviously "yes", the only thing we get from our site's resident rightwing chestbeaters is either insults, or silence. How can you people support this guy? We can easily see - they are really no better than Bush is.

Recall that earlier generations faced down fascism and communism not just with missiles and tanks, but with sturdy alliances and enduring convictions. They understood that our power alone cannot protect us, nor does it entitle us to do as we please. Instead, they knew that our power grows through its prudent use; our security emanates from the justness of our cause, the force of our example, the tempering qualities of humility and restraint.

-President Barack Obama, 1st Inaugural address
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I have a very difficult time trying to understand why so many people still believe Bush is good for the country. I guess it's like I posted in that other thread...

"Everybody knows that the world is full of stupid people"

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I have a very difficult time trying to understand why so many people still believe Bush is good for the country. I guess it's like I posted in that other thread...

"Everybody knows that the world is full of stupid people"

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I don't know why we bother with trials and rules of evidence and stuff.

Let's just save time and go from accusation to execution and get rid of all that wasteful crap in the middle.

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SHIT - I thought you had gone back the rock you crawled out from...... sad to see you have returned :(
That's funny, I thought the same thing about your post. Now go find something smart to say.
Try to practice what you preach
What is it that you preach guage? Can you "explanify" because I am missunderetimating what was being said here. I felt since you are so wise and I have enjoyed your thorough personal opinions so far, that you would again one more time step up to the plate and confirm to us your intellectual breadth. I really want to see you “fight vociferously� like our dear leader of the world GW said….
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