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Is this American?

http://www.thestate.com/mld/thestate/13376953.htm

The files were obtained using he Freedom of Information Act, just in case you doubt the origin of these documents...

So my question is: Is this American?
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http://www.thestate.com/mld/thestate/13376953.htm

The files were obtained using he Freedom of Information Act, just in case you doubt the origin of these documents...

So my question is: Is this American?
Yessir, that's it. The FBI and other organizations have huge files on all kinds of folks, mostly legally. Making it legal is of the same mindset of people who support the USA patriot act and argue aganist a 'right to privacy' in the constitution, conveniently ignoring the IX and X Amendments.

It's why, more than almost anything else, I am not a conservative.
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http://www.thestate.com/mld/thestate/13376953.htm

The files were obtained using he Freedom of Information Act, just in case you doubt the origin of these documents...

So my question is: Is this American?
Yessir, that's it. The FBI and other organizations have huge files on all kinds of folks, mostly legally. Making it legal is of the same mindset of people who support the USA patriot act and argue aganist a 'right to privacy' in the constitution, conveniently ignoring the IX and X Amendments.

It's why, more than almost anything else, I am not a conservative.
Yes, well, if you participate in public demonstrations in the UK you will find the police pointing video and still cameras at you, thus recording your appearance. What is done with this data is far from clear; the UK is far more secretive than the US. But of course there is nothing to worry about if you have nothing to hide. /sarc.
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The FBI had a file on my mom at one point because she was a member of the Communist party in the 70s. She was just a 20 something dope-smoking hippie--not some sort of threat to national security. They had pics of her passing out party literature and everything. Pretty disgusting that our tax dollars are funding bs like this.
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The FBI had a file on my mom at one point because she was a member of the Communist party in the 70s. She was just a 20 something dope-smoking hippie--not some sort of threat to national security. They had pics of her passing out party literature and everything. Pretty disgusting that our tax dollars are funding bs like this.
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The FBI had a file on my mom at one point because she was a member of the Communist party in the 70s. She was just a 20 something dope-smoking hippie--not some sort of threat to national security. They had pics of her passing out party literature and everything. Pretty disgusting that our tax dollars are funding bs like this.
How is anyone to know if you mom is a pot smoking hippie or a crazed member of the communist party ready to blow up buildings if they don't do at least a minimum of survillance?
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The FBI had a file on my mom at one point because she was a member of the Communist party in the 70s. She was just a 20 something dope-smoking hippie--not some sort of threat to national security. They had pics of her passing out party literature and everything. Pretty disgusting that our tax dollars are funding bs like this.
How is anyone to know if you mom is a pot smoking hippie or a crazed member of the communist party ready to blow up buildings if they don't do at least a minimum of survillance?
Exactly the rationale. Does one err on the side of liberty (and risk awful abuse of security) or on the side of security (and risk the aweful abuse of liberty)?

I'm a Libertarian.

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The FBI had a file on my mom at one point because she was a member of the Communist party in the 70s. She was just a 20 something dope-smoking hippie--not some sort of threat to national security. They had pics of her passing out party literature and everything. Pretty disgusting that our tax dollars are funding bs like this.
How is anyone to know if you mom is a pot smoking hippie or a crazed member of the communist party ready to blow up buildings if they don't do at least a minimum of survillance?
Exactly the rationale. Does one err on the side of liberty (and risk awful abuse of security) or on the side of security (and risk the aweful abuse of liberty)?

I'm a Libertarian.

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