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Heck, I can give an infinite (but bounded) number of coordinates on the face fo the Earth, only one of which is real. Since 1/infinite is infinite, any given coordinate is meaningless without corroboration.

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PS But I AM curious.
An oversight on your part I am certain... 1/infinity tends to zero, the infinitesimal, not infinity.

The infinite but bounded universe, reduced to a spherical analogy, you are making Hawkins proud.
Will it tend to go to zero on the negative or positive side?
infinite (but bounded)==> interesting, I see your point TCP about the sphere, but would that work on something that folds into istelf as well?
This is physics, not math. Coordinates are numerables (sp?), there are no negative number of coordinates. the denominator tends to +infinity, the limit is 0+

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Heck, I can give an infinite (but bounded) number of coordinates on the face fo the Earth, only one of which is real. Since 1/infinite is infinite, any given coordinate is meaningless without corroboration.

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PS But I AM curious.
An oversight on your part I am certain... 1/infinity tends to zero, the infinitesimal, not infinity.

The infinite but bounded universe, reduced to a spherical analogy, you are making Hawkins proud.
Will it tend to go to zero on the negative or positive side?
infinite (but bounded)==> interesting, I see your point TCP about the sphere, but would that work on something that folds into istelf as well?
This is physics, not math. Coordinates are numerables (sp?), there are no negative number of coordinates. the denominator tends to +infinity, the limit is 0+

Folding into intself? A singular idea!
I was just watching if you were awake...
But the denominator is enumerated how could it ever go to infinity?
Now, going back to the fold... what do you think? no point of reference can exist because any point can be another relatively speaking...
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This is physics, not math. Coordinates are numerables (sp?), there are no negative number of coordinates. the denominator tends to +infinity, the limit is 0+

Folding into intself? A singular idea!
I was just watching if you were awake...
But the denominator is enumerated how could it ever go to infinity?
Now, going back to the fold... what do you think? no point of reference can exist because any point can be another relatively speaking...
I am awake, but I find my mind drifting... I said nothing else than the denominator tended to +infinity, that the number of coordinates was infinite as botnst pointed out, in N, not Z.

About the fold... I said it ealier, my mind is drifting. I am completely engulfed in the thought of a particular couple of folds that occupy not the same space, but are contiguous, limitroph. They represent the mistery of life. They are mine to know, yet, they are unattainable.

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that's what those are? kind of hard telling..



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I think those are actually the anti-aircraft gun turrets at Abu Garib.

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But here is the problem TCP since you want to take this into the realm of physics: Suppose I am standing on the earth and I am at rest with respect to what we have established as the surface coordinates (maybe include altitude) in essence you have xyz and if you were mathematically modeling this but as you said TCP, there are no points and possibilities that x or y are negative (of course, you can assume that z can sink below a threashhold or say sea level)...
Now remember I am on earth and I can actually move relative to these coordinates but you know that I am in a continous physical acceleration because the mechanical resistance of the earth of the surface keeps me from free falling... my issue is what would be the relationship between the coordinates and the physical acceleration? Help me out, I am feeling the time dilation as I write this crap....
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I think those are actually the anti-aircraft gun turrets at Abu Garib.
LOL, no those are my communication dishes with the Aliens from Mutlag... I am feeding them intelligence about us and how they can take over this sorry planet and use us as food stock...
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Funny, we're doing the same thing with aliens from Juarez.


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Funny, we're doing the same thing with aliens from Juarez.

Is that one of the newely released photos from Abu-Graib????
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But here is the problem TCP since you want to take this into the realm of physics: Suppose I am standing on the earth and I am at rest with respect to what we have established as the surface coordinates (maybe include altitude) in essence you have xyz and if you were mathematically modeling this but as you said TCP, there are no points and possibilities that x or y are negative (of course, you can assume that z can sink below a threashhold or say sea level)...
Now remember I am on earth and I can actually move relative to these coordinates but you know that I am in a continous physical acceleration because the mechanical resistance of the earth of the surface keeps me from free falling... my issue is what would be the relationship between the coordinates and the physical acceleration? Help me out, I am feeling the time dilation as I write this crap....
That the coordinates have negative values is immaterial in the context of Botnst's analysis.
A point, is a point, even if its coordinates are (-1, -1, -1), it is counted as one point, for each combination, increasing by one the count of points begin considered as part of the infinite population of points making up the surface of the earth, regardless of elevation.

You've dropped bombs before, plotted trajectories for various SS missile, you know how it works!

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