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If they can lie about al-quaeda links, they can lie about being tortured.

Whatch me destroy their testimony in court.
So far, I've read claims that they lied about AL Quaeda links, but when pressed, the accusers describe mistakes and equivocations. Maybe there was an attempt to cover up mistakes I'll give you that. Let me ask this: If we went in on a lie, would the administration try to manufacture convincing WMD evidence instead of standing there empty handed and red faced like Geraldo's safe cracking incident?

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RE: Torture Victim "Invented" Iraq-Al Qaeda Link

It is obvious the administration thought there would be enough WMDs found to use as an excuse for invading Iraq. An excuse is precisely what they sought - they always knew that Iraq was not a threat to the US. The plan was simple - invade, find a few tons of Vx and wag the dog. The fact there were zero WMDs was a big surprise.

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It is obvious the administration thought there would be enough WMDs found to use as an excuse for invading Iraq. An excuse is precisely what they sought - they always knew that Iraq was not a threat to the US. The plan was simple - invade, find a few tons of Vx and wag the dog. The fact there were zero WMDs was a big surprise.
I agree. What we are talking about is premeditated deception by the pres.

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RE: Torture Victim "Invented" Iraq-Al Qaeda Link

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Blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah.......
I agree.
Er...wha???? Black is white, night is day, nothing makes sense anymore!







Just kidding, Az.[:)]
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Blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah.......
I agree.
Er...wha???? Black is white, night is day, nothing makes sense anymore!







Just kidding, Az.[:)]
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RE: Torture Victim "Invented" Iraq-Al Qaeda Link

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Blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah.......
I agree.
Er...wha???? Black is white, night is day, nothing makes sense anymore!







Just kidding, Az.[:)]
Good morning Jillian.
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Good morning Jillian.
Ummm....I'm at work, so not really.[V]

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RE: Torture Victim "Invented" Iraq-Al Qaeda Link

That KV and I agree about the flaccidness of the facts with which we invaded Iraq is maybe unusual for two antipodal politicos like us, but where we diverge is in whether the missteps taken were based on lies or blunders.

Either way, our solutions are wildly divergent. That's okay. He promised not to post anymore nude photos of TCP and me. I promised to remind him to wipe the foam from around his gob occasionally, so we are online friends..........I think[:p]

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It is obvious the administration thought there would be enough WMDs found to use as an excuse for invading Iraq. An excuse is precisely what they sought - they always knew that Iraq was not a threat to the US. The plan was simple - invade, find a few tons of Vx and wag the dog. The fact there were zero WMDs was a big surprise.
I agree. What we are talking about is premeditated deception by the pres.
"There are no good targets in Afghanistan" -- Donald Rumsfeld (presidential lackey)

I also note that you are unimpressed by the administration's blatant attempts to link Iraq to 9/11. The timing alone is beyond suspicious.

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It is obvious the administration thought there would be enough WMDs found to use as an excuse for invading Iraq. An excuse is precisely what they sought - they always knew that Iraq was not a threat to the US. The plan was simple - invade, find a few tons of Vx and wag the dog. The fact there were zero WMDs was a big surprise.
I agree. What we are talking about is premeditated deception by the pres.
"There are no good targets in Afghanistan" -- Donald Rumsfeld (presidential lackey)

I also note that you are unimpressed by the administration's blatant attempts to link Iraq to 9/11. The timing alone is beyond suspicious.
Is rummy's statement a lie or a mistake?

I'm too slow to follow the second statement.

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