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OK, I will start with the latest. His Iraq troop figures are way off. How is that for a lie. This is only 2-day old lies. Not even anything in the distant past.

You probably argue it's a figure given to him for press. Wrong answer, a person of his statue, ie. CEO of America, Inc. can't have a "rounded" of anything. We pay him $400K/yr and he better perform. No excuse. People get fired for much much less mistake than his.
My comments are directed at the link posted not at every comment Bush may or may not have made.

Not sure what the figures for troops were so can't talk about that. But to answer the question about rounded yes you can. Numbers are often rounded in speeches and presentations. I would much rather someone say that there are 120,000 troops trained than someone saying there are 118,254 troops trained. Come on apply some common sense. Of course there is a big difference in the rounding example I gave than if someone said there were 100,000 troops trained and there were only 60,000.
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Of course there is a big difference in the rounding example I gave than if someone said there were 100,000 troops trained and there were only 60,000.
Then you must not have listened to GW's rounding? I suggest you dig up the number he claimed the trained and combat ready Iraqi troops. It's a huge difference!! That, my friend, is a lie.

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Come on guys Bush did ot lie, he simply can't do math... Give him a break...
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Of course there is a big difference in the rounding example I gave than if someone said there were 100,000 troops trained and there were only 60,000.
Then you must not have listened to GW's rounding? I suggest you dig up the number he claimed the trained and combat ready Iraqi troops. It's a huge difference!! That, my friend, is a lie.
Again my comments were only about the link posted.

You are correct I did not listen to GW's statements on the number of trained and combat ready troops. Nor do I know what the actual numbers are. Thus my comment about not having made any statement that applies to his numbers.
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You should, and more frequently if I may suggest. Then you wouldn't so pro-Bush and the Gang of Four's lies.

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This is all unfolding while Congress does nothing. The structure of the government we have was supposed to contain a specific spread or distribution of authority between the three branches. It was not envisioned that all of Congress would subjugate their responsibility to a diseased mindset in the executive branch. The conduct of this post invasion of Iraq fiasco is only becoming a quagmire because Congress is controlled by the executive branch, contrary to the intent of the Founding Fathers. This is all happening because of the two party system we have, which I do not find a basis for in the Constitution. I think we need an ammendment that makes the two pary system illegal, or at least sets standards for ethics and priorities of members of Congress. The best would be no political parties. Political parties have short term and long term goals that conflict with what is good for America, goals that are sacrificing America's interests for gaining political power to secure future political power.

Where is the Congressional oversight of the quagmire in Iraq? How is it that the President and his cronies are the ones making all the decisons and presenting the data, and his party in Congress rubber stamps his absurd "plan" and attacks the integrity of anyone, from either party who might question the veracity of the Pferdescheisse being peddled to America? It is non-existent because Congress has been subjugated by the executive branch. Jim
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I guess if this is a model of democracy, Iraq has some issues ahead of it in the future...
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Here is a good read: http://www.nsa.gov/vietnam/index.cfm

So 40 years from now I am going to see something just like this about Iraq... I can't wait, I am going to bookmark that link and see when it gets updated...
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You should, and more frequently if I may suggest. Then you wouldn't so pro-Bush and the Gang of Four's lies.
Not a big GW or the "Gang of Four" fan.
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And to think it was all a lie...


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