Date registered: Aug 2002
Vehicle: C 111 Nardo
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RE: Saddam-Bush and Torture
Saddam did not torture exclusively as means of extracting information. He's tortured national soccer players who had not fared well in international competition and had "dishonored Iraq and its head of state"
He tortured not just opponents, but regular folks in order to instill fear in the population at large, and maintain control and power. He had people tortured for trivial and personal reasons, just because he could.
Why would you want to compare Saddam and Bush?
From a humanitarian perspective though, motivations for torturing any individual import very little. It is morally repulsive. Then, there's the ticking bomb dilemna. What would you do if you had the certainty that one person detained the key to saving hundreds, or even tens, or even one innocent life, but won;t divulge it? In case of terrorism, they have dehumanized themselves, I could not care less if we use AC or DC on their testicles.
Are chemically induced techniques to extract information torture? It is a violation of an individual for sure! Again, terrorists do not have my sympathy. I actually wish that in the 70s, 80s, 90s, terrorists caught in the act, say of hi-jacking a plane, (where there is obviously evidence enough to declare them threats) we'd just shoot the bastards to death without affording them a trial, or another second to live. The PLO fucks who killed kids in yeshivas in Antwerpen deserved the same treatment, the PLO fucks who bombed public places in western Europe deserved no less.
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