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I heard English with American accents spoken too. It does not explain who it was and why they were shooting. That a video clip on some website describes the shooters as contractors, is unconvincing. We have been deceived before by the opposition to this war. Their messages have been diluted by the diminished credibility as a result.

I will only believe what is documented by primary source material.

Bloggers and sycophantic special interest websites are not primary source unless they can provide firsthand proof of their presence during the events claimed. The burden of proof is heavier since they have been exposed as manipulators.
Sorry I just found out, that was a Hollywood production. They were using paint balls and the crashes were done with stunt people. The shooters could clearly see the occupants and made sure that no children or other people would get hurt from this exersice.
OK, guys move on, whoevere published this video needs to be procecuted for traison. There is no place for such filth and defamation. My bad, I should have looked for videos that refelect a better reality on the ground, something that will make you feel proud and better about yourself and where your dollars are being wasted, ooops sorry spent...
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I heard English with American accents spoken too. It does not explain who it was and why they were shooting. That a video clip on some website describes the shooters as contractors, is unconvincing. We have been deceived before by the opposition to this war. Their messages have been diluted by the diminished credibility as a result.

I will only believe what is documented by primary source material.

Bloggers and sycophantic special interest websites are not primary source unless they can provide firsthand proof of their presence during the events claimed. The burden of proof is heavier since they have been exposed as manipulators.
It all comes down to a person, if he wants to belief or not. Its sad that people are so ignorant and self centered and egoistic that they are blind to what they see and so easily ignore the atrocities committed by some yet at the same note bash others . pheraps this is where we go wrong and this is why .......
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I heard English with American accents spoken too. It does not explain who it was and why they were shooting. That a video clip on some website describes the shooters as contractors, is unconvincing. We have been deceived before by the opposition to this war. Their messages have been diluted by the diminished credibility as a result.

I will only believe what is documented by primary source material.

Bloggers and sycophantic special interest websites are not primary source unless they can provide firsthand proof of their presence during the events claimed. The burden of proof is heavier since they have been exposed as manipulators.
It all comes down to a person, if he wants to belief or not. Its sad that people are so ignorant and self centered and egoistic that they are blind to what they see and so easily ignore the atrocities committed by some yet at the same note bash others . pheraps this is where we go wrong and this is why .......
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I heard English with American accents spoken too. It does not explain who it was and why they were shooting. That a video clip on some website describes the shooters as contractors, is unconvincing. We have been deceived before by the opposition to this war. Their messages have been diluted by the diminished credibility as a result.

I will only believe what is documented by primary source material.

Bloggers and sycophantic special interest websites are not primary source unless they can provide firsthand proof of their presence during the events claimed. The burden of proof is heavier since they have been exposed as manipulators.
Sorry I just found out, that was a Hollywood production. They were using paint balls and the crashes were done with stunt people. The shooters could clearly see the occupants and made sure that no children or other people would get hurt from this exersice.
OK, guys move on, whoevere published this video needs to be procecuted for traison. There is no place for such filth and defamation. My bad, I should have looked for videos that refelect a better reality on the ground, something that will make you feel proud and better about yourself and where your dollars are being wasted, ooops sorry spent...
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from: http://www.truthout.org/docs_2005/112805A.shtml

"Capt Adnan Tawfiq of the Iraqi Interior Ministry which deals with compensation issues, has told the Sunday Telegraph that he has received numerous claims from families who allege that their relatives have been shot by private security contractors travelling in road convoys.

He said: "When the security companies kill people they just drive away and nothing is done. Sometimes we ring the companies concerned and they deny everything. The families don't get any money or compensation. I would say we have had about 50-60 incidents of this kind.""


These must be some flacid claims huh Azimuth?
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Look at the payscale of these private "warriors", no wonder they think they are Gods above all laws...
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from: http://www.truthout.org/docs_2005/112805A.shtml

"Capt Adnan Tawfiq of the Iraqi Interior Ministry which deals with compensation issues, has told the Sunday Telegraph that he has received numerous claims from families who allege that their relatives have been shot by private security contractors travelling in road convoys.

He said: "When the security companies kill people they just drive away and nothing is done. Sometimes we ring the companies concerned and they deny everything. The families don't get any money or compensation. I would say we have had about 50-60 incidents of this kind.""


These must be some flacid claims huh Azimuth?
Just curious. How much is a guy who continues to drive towards a vehicle that is peppering his own car with bullets worth?


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"Capt Adnan Tawfiq of the Iraqi Interior Ministry which deals with compensation issues, has told the Sunday Telegraph that he has received numerous claims from families who allege that their relatives have been shot by private security contractors travelling in road convoys.

He said: "When the security companies kill people they just drive away and nothing is done. Sometimes we ring the companies concerned and they deny everything. The families don't get any money or compensation. I would say we have had about 50-60 incidents of this kind.""


These must be some flacid claims huh Azimuth?
Just curious. How much is a guy who continues to drive towards a vehicle that is peppering his own car with bullets worth?
Good question thrillkill, because I have been shot at while driving a tank and I had no idea that I was being made a target until I inspected it when I went outside for a pee that I did not finish because I had to run back dodging shots that now I could see. The point is that in a noisy environment it sometimes difficult to discern other noises...
I never got paid well for being a target thrillkill and surely if I had been killed in Afghanistan by the "Mujahidines" my family would have gotten diddly scat too... That was war oh and major combat was not declared over unlike what is going on in Iraq. Technically these civilians are being shot in peace time not during some combat operation, so I would say this is attempted and murder... I think a court will be better at assessing what is fair, but these people are beyond any laws and I am sure no one will see them in court anytime soon...
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if I had been killed in Afghanistan by the "Mujahidines" my family would have gotten diddly scat too...
Mujahidines whom we supported covertly, and openly (listen to Sly's rambling about the proud people in Rambo III, unless that is not on the DVD) against the you, the Russians!
We are not picky when we chose allies, as long as they target some of our enemies...

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from: http://www.truthout.org/docs_2005/112805A.shtml

"Capt Adnan Tawfiq of the Iraqi Interior Ministry which deals with compensation issues, has told the Sunday Telegraph that he has received numerous claims from families who allege that their relatives have been shot by private security contractors travelling in road convoys.

He said: "When the security companies kill people they just drive away and nothing is done. Sometimes we ring the companies concerned and they deny everything. The families don't get any money or compensation. I would say we have had about 50-60 incidents of this kind.""


These must be some flacid claims huh Azimuth?
I've not intimated that these claims are flaccid. I declared that your flippancy was.

I read a lot of hearsay in your posts relative to this issue. That is not to say they are false charges. They may very well be true. I hope they are not, though from what you have shown us, that hope is effete.

Please understand that I'm suspicious of the real reasons you post these things and look for verifiable facts before I hang my head in shame.

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