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Blow me, bitch.

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Blow me, bitch.
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Instead, you guys invade the place the way Hitler invaded Poland, and expect the rest of us to shut the fuck up while you slaughter people for nothing. Go to hell.
What an asinine statement trying to compare the two events. Typical left emotionalism.
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You're right. Poland was a much greater threat to Germany than Iraq was to the U.S., by virtue of proximity alone.

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6 cups riced or mashed russet potatoes
1 tsp. salt
3 T. margarine or butter
1 T. sugar
2 T. heavy cream or evaporated milk
1 1/2 cups all-purpose flour



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Combine all ingredients except flour; refrigerate until thoroughly chilled. Add flour; mix well. Heat lefse or other griddle to 400 degrees. Form dough into long roll and cut into 12 sections. Form each section into a small ball. Roll out very thin with cloth-covered lefse or regular rolling pin on cloth-covered lefse board or other surface. Dust board with flour when turning lefse dough. Bake on ungreased griddle until brown spots appear. Turn and bake other side. Stack lefse between 2 towels to cool. Store in refrigerator in plastic bags. Can be frozen.
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You're right. Poland was a much greater threat to Germany than Iraq was to the U.S., by virtue of proximity alone.
If Iraq had ties to terrorist activity, would that make them a threat to the US in a post 9/11 world?

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You're right. Poland was a much greater threat to Germany than Iraq was to the U.S., by virtue of proximity alone.
If Iraq had ties to terrorist activity, would that make them a threat to the US in a post 9/11 world?

Yes it would have. Too bad they didnt have a terrorist link.

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If Iraq had ties to terrorist activity, would that make them a threat to the US in a post 9/11 world?
Possibly, if that terrorist activity was directed at the West, which it wasn't. In any case, the fact is that one could make a case that each and every nation on the planet has some sort of terrorist ties, including the U.S., so the point is moot. Remember, if the U.S. hadn't been a major player in training foreign terrorists, 9/11 would have probably never happened. The only obvious conclusion is that we should stop training foreign terrorists, and we apparently have. Oh, we might have also thought in terms of taking to task those nations who played an active role in the 9/11 attack (other than ourselves), rather than expend tens of thousands of innocent lives and an enormous sum of money dealing with a non-combatant irritant that would have better been dealt with through the use of a fly swatter. Were you really living in personal fear of an attack from Iraq?

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You're right. Poland was a much greater threat to Germany than Iraq was to the U.S., by virtue of proximity alone.
If Iraq had ties to terrorist activity, would that make them a threat to the US in a post 9/11 world?
Az,

What is your point? There is nearly no country in the Middle East without a more substantive tie to Al-Qaeda than Iraq. The same is becoming true in Souteast Asia. There are even better established links to terror cells in Canada that threaten the United States than were in Iraq at the time up to and after 9-11 when Saddam was running the joint.

If we are going to defend America, why would we pick a place to invade where you cannot sustain a valid argument that they were threatening us? Because Saddam was battered ragdoll we smeared with a pariah stink so there would be relatively little sympathetic international response when we attacked. He was neither the most brutal dictator around, nor the most bellicose and beligerent, nor the most defiant, and by far not the most dangerous. But he was the easiest to invade and get a foothold in the Middle East. The urgency as March 2003 approached was the UN inspections were gaining credibility. The longer they went on finding nothing while being given unimpeded access to their designated search sites, the more the international community became convinced there were no WMD.

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You're right. Poland was a much greater threat to Germany than Iraq was to the U.S., by virtue of proximity alone.
If Iraq had ties to terrorist activity, would that make them a threat to the US in a post 9/11 world?

Yes it would have. Too bad they didnt have a terrorist link.
What kinds of things do terrorists do? Specifically, what have their methods been in Israel, Jordan, UK and Spain?

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