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Democratic Comments supporting War

http://www.gop.com/Default.aspx?s=video

Hey, just bounced into this forum. Really would like to stay friends with all after so many posts, but thought that a refresher on particular FACTS might be in order to throw some balance into certain ongoing debates posted here.

Start the video on the link above to hear Dems' speak about the recognized threat and willingness to go into Iraq.
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So let me get this straight, Bush went into Iraq, because the Democrats told him too? You guys are getting down right laughable.

Recall that earlier generations faced down fascism and communism not just with missiles and tanks, but with sturdy alliances and enduring convictions. They understood that our power alone cannot protect us, nor does it entitle us to do as we please. Instead, they knew that our power grows through its prudent use; our security emanates from the justness of our cause, the force of our example, the tempering qualities of humility and restraint.

-President Barack Obama, 1st Inaugural address
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It does prove dems are DUMB!

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So let me get this straight, Bush went into Iraq, because the Democrats told him too? You guys are getting down right laughable.
For believing then, the same shit some still believe today.

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So let me get this straight, Bush went into Iraq, because the Democrats told him too? You guys are getting down right laughable.
For believing then, the same shit some still believe today.
If I told you I could walk on water, would you believe me? On my Word?

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RE: Democratic Comments supporting War

Given Bush's lies, its not surprising a lot of people were frightened into believing his horse shit:


"Our intelligence officials estimate that Saddam Hussein had the materials to produce as much as 500 tons of sarin, mustard and VX nerve agent.�
-State of the Union Address – 1/28/2003


Reality:
Zero Chemical Weapons Found
Not a drop of any chemical weapons has been found anywhere in Iraq, other than a few rotting mortar shells left over from the Iran-Iraq War


“U.S. intelligence indicates that Saddam Hussein
had upwards of 30,000 munitions capable
of delivering chemical agents.�

-State of the Union Address – 1/28/2003


Reality:
See above


“We have also discovered through intelligence
that Iraq has a growing fleet of manned and unmanned aerial vehicles that could be used to disperse chemical or biological weapons across broad areas."

-State of the Union Address – 1/28/2003


Reality:
Zero Aerial Vehicles Found
Not a single aerial vehicle capable of dispersing chemical or biological weapons, has been found anywhere in Iraq


"Evidence from intelligence sources, secret communications and statements by people
now in custody reveal that
Saddam Hussein aids and protects terrorists, including members of Al Qaida."

-State of the Union Address – 1/28/2003


Reality:
Zero Al Qaeda Connection
To date, not a shred of evidence connecting Hussein with Al Qaida or any other known terrorist organizations have been revealed.
other than certain Palestinian groups who represent no direct threat to the US - 911 Commission, Senate 911 Investigation, and even Bush himself have stated this as fact, yet both Bush and Cheney, for years went out of their way to constantly say "9-11" and "Iraq" in the same breath in their speeches. This was low down, shameless lying manipulation with no basis in fact.


"Our intelligence sources tell us that he (Saddam) has attempted to purchase high-strength aluminum tubes suitable for nuclear weapons production."
-State of the Union Address – 1/28/2003



Reality:
The International Atomic Energy Agency (IAEA) as well as dozens of leading scientists declared said tubes unsuitable for nuclear weapons production -- months before the war.

"Satellite photographs reveal that Iraq is rebuilding facilities at [past nuclear] sites."

- Bush speech to the nation – 10/7/2002


Reality:
Two months of inspections at these former Iraqi nuclear sites found zero evidence of prohibited nuclear activities there

IAEA report to UN Security Council – 1/27/2003

"The British government has learned that Saddam Hussein recently sought significant quantities of uranium from Africa."

-State of the Union Address – 1/28/2003


Reality:
The documents implied were known at the time by Bush to be forged and not credible.


"We know he's been absolutely devoted to trying to acquire nuclear weapons, and we believe he has, in fact, reconstituted nuclear weapons."

-VP Dick Cheney – “Meet the Press� 3/16/2003


Reality (note date of this statement, compare to above):
“The IAEA had found no evidence or plausible indication of the revival of a nuclear weapons program in Iraq."
IAEA report to UN Security Council – 3/7/2003


BIGGEST FUCKING LIE OF THEM ALL, REPEATED AD NASEUM BY THE RIGHT:

"We gave him a chance to allow the inspectors in, and he wouldn't let them in."
-Bush Press Conference 7/14/2003



FACT:
UN inspectors went into Iraq to search for possible weapons violations from December 2002 into March 2003. Here it is on one of your own nutcase fascist web sites DATED BEFORE BUSH MADE THE ABOVE STATEMENT, THE LYING SACK OF SHIT:

http://www.newsmax.com/archives/articles/2002/11/13/171853.shtml

In March 2003, they asked for six more weeks, and stated that in that time they would be able to produce irrefutable truth that Iraq was in compliance with the UN prohibitions.THE DEMOCRATIC PARTY DEMANDED HE COMPLY WITH THIS UN REQUEST. Instead, BUSH ATTACKED ANYWAY, committing MASS MURDER on DEFENSELESS CIVILIAN POPULATIONS IN IRAQ, MURDERERING THOUSANDS OF DEFENSELESS WOMEN AND CHILDREN, IN DIRECT VIOLATION OF THE UN CHARTER, AND THE LAWS OF WAR.




Recall that earlier generations faced down fascism and communism not just with missiles and tanks, but with sturdy alliances and enduring convictions. They understood that our power alone cannot protect us, nor does it entitle us to do as we please. Instead, they knew that our power grows through its prudent use; our security emanates from the justness of our cause, the force of our example, the tempering qualities of humility and restraint.

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So let me get this straight, Bush went into Iraq, because the Democrats told him too? You guys are getting down right laughable.
For believing then, the same shit some still believe today.
If I told you I could walk on water, would you believe me? On my Word?
Don't you have shit to do, people to save?

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So let me get this straight, Bush went into Iraq, because the Democrats told him too? You guys are getting down right laughable.
For believing then, the same shit some still believe today.
If I told you I could walk on water, would you believe me? On my Word?
Don't you have shit to do, people to save?
And you wonder why you were the "chosen" people?

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So let me get this straight, Bush went into Iraq, because the Democrats told him too? You guys are getting down right laughable.
For believing then, the same shit some still believe today.
If I told you I could walk on water, would you believe me? On my Word?
Don't you have shit to do, people to save?
And you wonder why you were the "chosen" people?
Even if you could change sewage water into Saint Emilion Grand Cru, I would not join your club!

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So let me get this straight, Bush went into Iraq, because the Democrats told him too? You guys are getting down right laughable.
For believing then, the same shit some still believe today.
If I told you I could walk on water, would you believe me? On my Word?
Don't you have shit to do, people to save?
And you wonder why you were the "chosen" people?
Even if you could change sewage water into Saint Emilion Grand Cru, I would not join your club!
I'll nail you for that!

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So let me get this straight, Bush went into Iraq, because the Democrats told him too? You guys are getting down right laughable.
For believing then, the same shit some still believe today.
If I told you I could walk on water, would you believe me? On my Word?
Don't you have shit to do, people to save?
And you wonder why you were the "chosen" people?
Even if you could change sewage water into Saint Emilion Grand Cru, I would not join your club!
I'll nail you for that!

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