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I am starting with only 2 basic options Bud or Mil
Special Brew 4 100.00%
Heineken 1 100.00%
Hoegaarden 4 100.00%
Guinness 6 100.00%
Marijuana (don't drink) 4 100.00%
Duvel 1 100.00%
sam adams 1 100.00%
any of the fine Northwest Microbrews 1 100.00%
König Ludwig - The Royal Bavarian Hefe-weissbier 1 100.00%
HARD LIQUOR 1 100.00%
Bud 3 100.00%
Miller 3 100.00%
Corona 5 100.00%
Kronenbourg 5 100.00%
Stella 4 100.00%
Spaten Brau 1 100.00%
Brew own beer 1 100.00%
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Following story prompted me to make a poll...

I am starting with only 2 basic options Bud or Miller, please feel free to add your choice if you may.. Thanks

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MILWAUKEE - The latest fight in the U.S. beer battle is a matter of taste. Miller Brewing Co. says rival Anheuser-Busch has altered Bud Light in the past year to make it more bitter and bubbly, rolling out the claim about Bud Light in national television ads that began airing Friday. The company said data it has collected show Bud Light's bitterness and carbonation rose from last year.


Anheuser-Busch Cos. Inc. called Miller's claims "another marketing ploy" and complained to cable networks that the statements are false.

Now, 10 of 32 cable networks contracted to run the commercials have put them on hold while awaiting substantiation of the claims, said Pete Marino, a spokesman for Milwaukee-based Miller, a unit of SAB Miller PLC.

Several networks, including TBS, TNT and E!, have held the ads, while others such as CNN, CNN Headline News and Comedy Central continue to air them, Marino said Tuesday. Broadcast networks ABC, CBS, NBC and Fox were not targeted in the ad buys, he said.

"All we're saying that they're doing is that they changed Bud Light and that Miller Lite still has more taste," Marino said. "We need to be very diligent in protecting our taste claim."

Anheuser-Busch Cos. Inc. said Monday it has not altered its "winning formula." However, the company added, "our brewmasters are constantly making small adjustments to address seasonal changes in raw ingredients."

Bud Light remains the highest-selling light beer in the world, according to St. Louis-based Anheuser-Busch, which also controls nearly half the U.S. beer market.

"We saw negative advertising that included our product, and we were in the best position to explain to the networks that these claims are not true," Anheuser-Busch group vice president of brewing operations, Douglas Muhleman, said in a statement Tuesday.

The dispute is the latest chapter in a bitter skirmish for sales as Americans increasingly experiment with liquor-based drinks and more upscale microbrews and imports. As a result, beer sales have gone flat in the U.S. market.

In the first nine months of the year, Anheuser-Busch saw its share of shipments slip by 1.1 points to 48.7 percent, while Miller was flat at 18.2 percent, said Benj Steinman, publisher of trade newsletter Beer Marketer's Insights.

"Irrespective of who's right on whether the taste changed, it's a continuation of a campaign Miller has had for two years," Steinman said. Miller's attack in the light beer segment since 2003 helped turn around its flagship Miller Lite last year and steal market share from Anheuser-Busch for the first time in nearly three decades.

But the offensive has turned off some broadcasters.

Last December, CBS and NBC pulled three Miller ads that took aim at Bud Light and Budweiser, with CBS calling the ads "disparaging."

In April, the Treasury Department's Alcohol and Tobacco Tax and Trade Bureau rejected Anheuser-Busch's complaints about Miller advertising, which said Miller Lite had "more taste and half the carbs of Bud Light."

A spokesman for Turner Broadcasting System, a subsidiary of Time Warner Inc., would not comment. A spokeswoman for E! Entertainment Television Inc. said the company does not comment on specific advertisers.

The latest commercials depict a court setting, where Miller Lite's taste is judged against a "changed Bud Light." One ad features rapper Flavor Flav as an expert witness.


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I ussually avoid American swill and go for a Kronenbourg.

I've also taken the libery of adding beers I enjoy.
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Biller, I mean Mud!

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If you like Corona, you'll love Sol.
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One more reason to get drunk on Beer...

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Researchers: Hops in Beer May Be Healthy

CORVALLIS, Ore. - Hops used to brew beer may have some health benefits but researchers warn against expecting any significant effect by drinking a few cold ones.


Scientists at Oregon State University's Linus Pauling Institute have found a class of compounds called flavonids neutralize "free radicals" — rogue oxygen molecules that can damage cells.

One of those flavonids, a compound called xanthohumol, is found only in hops. It may help prevent some forms of cancer, researchers say.

Some beers already have higher levels of flavonids than others. The lager and pilsner beers commonly sold in domestic U.S. brews have fairly low levels of these compounds, but some porter, stout and ale brews have much higher levels.

Still, the level of the compound in beer is generally considered too low to have any significant preventive effect.

"We can't say that drinking beer will help prevent cancer," said Fred Stevens, OSU assistant professor of pharmacy and scientist in the Linus Pauling Institute.

Hops, from a flowering plant, are used by brewers as a bittering agent in beer. Xanthohumol is a yellow substance that was first discovered in hops in 1913.

But its health effects were not known until the 1990s, when Stevens and colleagues started studying the flavonoid compound. In cell cultures and animal studies, xanthohumol targeted various types of cancer, including breast, colon and ovarian.

His original work, along with new developments in the anti-cancer properties of xanthohumol made during the past decade, was reviewed last year in the journal Phytochemistry.

Now Stevens is collaborating with fellow Linus Pauling Institute scientist Emily Ho to investigate the effects of the flavonoid on prostate cancer cells.

"When we give the flavonoid to cancer cells, it seems to slow their growth, which is what you want to do for cancer," said Ho, who is also an assistant professor in OSUs department of nutrition and exercise sciences.

Although the tiny amounts of xanthohumol found in beer have little preventive value, Stevens thinks it may be possible in the future for drug companies to develop pills containing concentrated doses of the flavonoid.


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beer is gross, bring me a cranberry daiquiri.

a strong one. with spiced rum.

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beer is gross, bring me a cranberry daiquiri.

a strong one. with spiced rum.
I figure a guy would get drunk faster with a few of those.

I really did not like beer for a long time, but it is an acquired taste. The north american water supply in reference to brewing is gross, if you are in europe any time soon grab yourself a beer and you'll find it's quite pleasing.
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beer is gross, bring me a cranberry daiquiri.

a strong one. with spiced rum.

Do you like Sea Breezes as well??
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im pretty picky(and pigheaded)

i only drink rum cokes and cranberry daiquiris.

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beer is gross, bring me a cranberry daiquiri.

a strong one. with spiced rum.

Do you like Sea Breezes as well??
His drink per volume has more alcohol content...
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