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Whatever happened to "When in Rome,do as the Romans do"?

I would hold that anyone entering a country voluntarily is duty bound to get in step with the culture and lifestyle of the host.Equally,a state should not be condidered illiberal for taking steps to maintain its identity and values.A state should use its upper hand in terms of resources and power to nip violent insurrection in the bud.The apologist politics of western Europe are a ticking bomb.I fear for the quality of life ten years down the line if the present trends continue.
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I wonder if it is still true in Texas that you can shoot someone to protect your property. If that is true, I want to live in Texas.

Let them try that crap here. We understand their needs and we will put a bullet in their ass.

I wish we had public caning. It may prevent the new graphitti art that is popping up.

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Whatever happened to "When in Rome,do as the Romans do"?

I would hold that anyone entering a country voluntarily is duty bound to get in step with the culture and lifestyle of the host.Equally,a state should not be condidered illiberal for taking steps to maintain its identity and values.A state should use its upper hand in terms of resources and power to nip violent insurrection in the bud.The apologist politics of western Europe are a ticking bomb.I fear for the quality of life ten years down the line if the present trends continue.
Yes, and the demographic trends mean that unrest or civil war is even more likely in the future. France is paying for deGaulle's legacy in foolishly aligning with the Arab world against the US and the West. Already there have been call for 'enclaves' within France where 'you go your way and I go mine'. It's nuts.
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French Rioting Appears to Lose Strength

PARIS - France's storm of rioting lost strength on Wednesday with a drop of nearly half in the number of car burnings, police said. But looters and vandals still defied a state of emergency with attacks on stores, a newspaper warehouse and a subway station.

The extraordinary 12-day state of emergency went into effect Tuesday at midnight, giving special powers to authorities in Paris, its suburbs and more than 30 other cities from the Mediterranean to the German border — an indication of how widespread arson, riots and other unrest have become in nearly two weeks of violence.

The emergency decree invoked a 50-year-old security law dating from France's colonial war in Algeria. It empowers officials to put troublemakers under house arrest, ban or limit the movement of people and vehicles, confiscate weapons and close public spaces where gangs gather.

Local officials could also choose to impose curfews. By midday Wednesday, only a few municipalities and regions had. Paris had not.

Seventy-three percent of respondents in a poll published Wednesday in daily Le Parisien said they agreed with the curfew.

The unrest started Oct. 27 as a localized riot in a northeast Paris suburb in anger over the accidental deaths of two teenagers, of Mauritanian and Tunisian descent, electrocuted while hiding from police in a power substation.

It has grown into a nationwide insurrection by disillusioned suburban youths, many of them French-born children of immigrants from France's former territories such as Algeria. France's suburbs have long been neglected, and their young people complain of widespread discrimination and a lack of jobs.

Overnight Tuesday-Wednesday, youths torched 617 vehicles, down from 1,173 a night earlier, police said. Incidents were reported in 116 towns, down from 226. Police made 280 arrests, raising the total to 1,830 since the violence broke out 13 nights ago.

"The arrests are bearing fruit," said Interior Ministry spokesman Franck Louvrier. "It's clear there has been a significant drop, but we must persevere."

Christian Gaillard de Lavernee, head of the national civil security brigade, told reporters that firefighters responded to 30 percent fewer calls overnight than the previous day.

In some towns, concerned residents have banded together to keep overnight watch on public buildings and to patrol their neighborhoods, armed only with fire extinguishers.

"We are not Rambos!" said Manuel Aeschliman, the mayor of Asnieres northwest of Paris, to a dozen volunteers as they set off on rounds. "No intervention — If you see something, call it in."

National Police Chief Michel Gaudin said an additional 1,000 officers were deployed overnight, bringing the total to 11,500. He attributed the drop in attacks to police sweeps and cooperation from community groups.

Riot police fired tear gas to disperse youths throwing gasoline bombs in the southwestern city of Toulouse, and rioters used Molotov cocktails to blow up an unoccupied bus powered by natural-gas in the town of Bassens, near Bordeaux. No injuries were reported.

Subway service that had been shut down in the eastern city of Lyon resumed Wednesday after a firebomb exploded in a station late Tuesday. No one was injured, but city transport officials announced that bus and subway service will be halted each evening at 7 p.m. at least until Sunday as a precaution.

Arsonists also set fire to a warehouse used by Nice-Matin newspaper in Grasse, national police spokesman Patrick Reydy said. Youths looted and set fire to a furniture and electronics store and an adjacent carpet store in Arras in the north, he said.

The northern city of Amiens, central Orleans and Savigny-sur-Orge, and the Essonne region south of the capital were putting into place curfews for minors, who must be accompanied by adults at night. Two cars burned in Amiens overnight despite the curfew, compared with six a night earlier, police said.

Curfew violators face up to two months in jail and a euro3,750 (US$4,400) fine, the Justice Ministry said. Minors face one month in jail.

The state-of-emergency law was drawn up to quell unrest in Algeria during its war of independence from France, and was last used in 1984 by President Francois Mitterrand against rioting in the French Pacific Ocean territory of New Caledonia.

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Whatever happened to "When in Rome,do as the Romans do"?

I would hold that anyone entering a country voluntarily is duty bound to get in step with the culture and lifestyle of the host.Equally,a state should not be condidered illiberal for taking steps to maintain its identity and values.A state should use its upper hand in terms of resources and power to nip violent insurrection in the bud.The apologist politics of western Europe are a ticking bomb.I fear for the quality of life ten years down the line if the present trends continue.
Yes, and the demographic trends mean that unrest or civil war is even more likely in the future. France is paying for deGaulle's legacy in foolishly aligning with the Arab world against the US and the West. Already there have been call for 'enclaves' within France where 'you go your way and I go mine'. It's nuts.
The danger to France is that the civil authorities have all but conceded that they cannot control the unrest but that the mullahs can. The civil authorities are actively ceding power to the mullahs.

With such a large proportionate minority in France, the Mullafication of civil law will have a very strong impact on secular, civil rule.

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Whatever happened to "When in Rome,do as the Romans do"?

I would hold that anyone entering a country voluntarily is duty bound to get in step with the culture and lifestyle of the host.Equally,a state should not be condidered illiberal for taking steps to maintain its identity and values.A state should use its upper hand in terms of resources and power to nip violent insurrection in the bud.The apologist politics of western Europe are a ticking bomb.I fear for the quality of life ten years down the line if the present trends continue.
Yes, and the demographic trends mean that unrest or civil war is even more likely in the future. France is paying for deGaulle's legacy in foolishly aligning with the Arab world against the US and the West. Already there have been call for 'enclaves' within France where 'you go your way and I go mine'. It's nuts.
The danger to France is that the civil authorities have all but conceded that they cannot control the unrest but that the mullahs can. The civil authorities are actively ceding power to the mullahs.

With such a large proportionate minority in France, the Mullafication of civil law will have a very strong impact on secular, civil rule.

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Essentially, France is surrendering to itself? Why didn't I see that coming?

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Flash: President Bush May Send Up To 5 Marines For French Assistance.....

President Bush has authorized the Joint Chiefs to begin drawing up a battle plan to pull France's ass out of the fire again. Facing an apparent overwhelming force of up to 400 pissed off teenagers Mr. Bush doubts France's ability to hold off the little pissants. "Hell, if the last two world wars are any indication, I would expect France to surrender any day now", said Bush. Joint Chiefs head, Gen. Peter Pace, warned the President that it might be necessary to send up to 5 marines to get things under control. The general admitted that 5 marines may be overkill but he wanted to get this thing under control within 24 hours of arriving on scene. He stated he was having a hard time finding even one marine to help those ungrateful ba$tard$ out for a third time but thought that he could persuade a few women marines to do the job before they went on pregnancy leave. President Bush asked Gen. Pace to get our marines out of there as soon as possible after order was restored. He also reminded Gen. Pace to make sure the marines did not take soap, razors, or deodorant with them. The less they stand out the better.
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President Bush has authorized the Joint Chiefs to begin drawing up a battle plan to pull France's ass out of the fire again. Facing an apparent overwhelming force of up to 400 pissed off teenagers Mr. Bush doubts France's ability to hold off the little pissants. "Hell, if the last two world wars are any indication, I would expect France to surrender any day now", said Bush. Joint Chiefs head, Gen. Peter Pace, warned the President that it might be necessary to send up to 5 marines to get things under control. The general admitted that 5 marines may be overkill but he wanted to get this thing under control within 24 hours of arriving on scene. He stated he was having a hard time finding even one marine to help those ungrateful ba$tard$ out for a third time but thought that he could persuade a few women marines to do the job before they went on pregnancy leave. President Bush asked Gen. Pace to get our marines out of there as soon as possible after order was restored. He also reminded Gen. Pace to make sure the marines did not take soap, razors, or deodorant with them. The less they stand out the better.
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