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RE: Another bad accident

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Acids stain you;
And drugs cause cramp.
Guns aren't lawful;
Nooses give;
Gas smells awful;
You might as well live.

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RE: Another bad accident

At some level I can comprehend being so completely despondent that the idea of suicide is entertained often enough that it ultimately germinates into action.

What I NEVER understand is why people take out loved ones with them. Recently in San Mateo a father killed his whole family (young daughters and wife) before taking his own life; apparently they'd been having "money troubles". Good grief, if you're so messed up yourself then go walk into the ocean, but why kill off people you supposedly love?

Perhaps in the depths of the despondent mind a psychological transference takes place, wherein the person begins to believe that their loved ones will sprial into the same sort of utter hopelessness, so that they won't be able to go on; thus, the person concludes that they might as well take them along.

Let's face it: everyone is messed up one way or another. So long as we have human beings we will have stupid actions that those who are not similarly messed up will not be able to comprehend.
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I like this better:

Razors pain you;
Rivers are damp;
Acids stain you;
And drugs cause cramp.
Guns aren't lawful;
Nooses give;
Gas smells awful;
You might as well live.

Dorothy Parker
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Whew!,

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At some level I can comprehend being so completely despondent that the idea of suicide is entertained often enough that it ultimately germinates into action.

What I NEVER understand is why people take out loved ones with them. Recently in San Mateo a father killed his whole family (young daughters and wife) before taking his own life; apparently they'd been having "money troubles". Good grief, if you're so messed up yourself then go walk into the ocean, but why kill off people you supposedly love?

Perhaps in the depths of the despondent mind a psychological transference takes place, wherein the person begins to believe that their loved ones will sprial into the same sort of utter hopelessness, so that they won't be able to go on; thus, the person concludes that they might as well take them along.

Let's face it: everyone is messed up one way or another. So long as we have human beings we will have stupid actions that those who are not similarly messed up will not be able to comprehend.
If we can wax a little serious, I regard myself as a relatively sane individual. However, I ahve been so emotionally affilcted before that the tiniest whisper of that option invaded my senses. I knew that if I entertained the mechanics and results of such an act, that I would likely do it with enough consideration.

Oddly, this is not my nature. I have always tried to be rational and deliberate in my actions and decisions. So now I can see how anyone can be drawn to the lure of instant peace during a soul wrenching period.

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Right, AZ!

But I still don't understand the killing of the loved ones. It's just sickening, disheartening, etc.
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Watched a drunk teenage boy die one night in my arms cause his car rolled over him. No belt on. Took ambulance 20 minutes to arrive. Too late. He was drunk to boot. Sad.
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But like Greg said. Society has become so self centered that they see no problem with taking out those around them. Look at the idiot who jumped in front of the truck. That driver is probably still shaking.

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RE: Another bad accident

A while back, a driver rolled his car three or four times here in Oregon, died at the scene. Turns out he was "pleasuring" himself and lost control. They found him with his pants around his ankles and some kind of device plugged into the cigarette lighter. Now thats a bad accident. Feel sorry for his kids.

"So, how did your dad die?"

"Jerkin' it at 70mph."
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RE: Another bad accident

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At some level I can comprehend being so completely despondent that the idea of suicide is entertained often enough that it ultimately germinates into action.

What I NEVER understand is why people take out loved ones with them. Recently in San Mateo a father killed his whole family (young daughters and wife) before taking his own life; apparently they'd been having "money troubles". Good grief, if you're so messed up yourself then go walk into the ocean, but why kill off people you supposedly love?

Perhaps in the depths of the despondent mind a psychological transference takes place, wherein the person begins to believe that their loved ones will sprial into the same sort of utter hopelessness, so that they won't be able to go on; thus, the person concludes that they might as well take them along.

Let's face it: everyone is messed up one way or another. So long as we have human beings we will have stupid actions that those who are not similarly messed up will not be able to comprehend.
If we can wax a little serious, I regard myself as a relatively sane individual. However, I ahve been so emotionally affilcted before that the tiniest whisper of that option invaded my senses. I knew that if I entertained the mechanics and results of such an act, that I would likely do it with enough consideration.

Oddly, this is not my nature. I have always tried to be rational and deliberate in my actions and decisions. So now I can see how anyone can be drawn to the lure of instant peace during a soul wrenching period.
I think rigourous honesty would require all of us to admit we have entertained ideas of suicide at one time or another. It's part of the human condition. Ultimately, our survival instincts overrule our desire to end psychological pain, and if they don't, natural selection takes place, and those with a genetic pre-disposition to off themselves disappear from the gene pool. This natural process has made suicide a rare enough event that it shocks the crap out of us.

Recall that earlier generations faced down fascism and communism not just with missiles and tanks, but with sturdy alliances and enduring convictions. They understood that our power alone cannot protect us, nor does it entitle us to do as we please. Instead, they knew that our power grows through its prudent use; our security emanates from the justness of our cause, the force of our example, the tempering qualities of humility and restraint.

-President Barack Obama, 1st Inaugural address
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