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RE: Far right fixing to bail on Bush?

[QUOTE]mzsmbs - 10/31/2005 8:43 AM

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Bush sucks no more than the voting class fascists that voted him into power

Why do you say all people that voted for bush suck and why do you think they are fascist,that is a pretty strong word to call over half the voters in the US. Most people just chose the lesser evil of the two rich guys that was running for office.
ok, here is the simplest of questions (i'm yet to receive a straight answer :) Name one good thing that shrub has done, that we can all agree on? just 1 will do at this time... hehehe.. heck, if you're feeling spunky give us 3... [:D]
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Most people just chose the lesser evil of the two rich guys that was running for office.
Lesser evil? By whose definition? The dipsh!t just sank this country. Since he was elected, he lied about a war, this country has less college grads, 50% of the high school kids can't read nor write, we lagged behind in technological development, even China produces more scientists, the country is run by a bunch of right wing religious nuts.......need I say more? Fock Bush and his Fascist cronies.
You seem to imply that all those problems occurred because he is president. All the problems you mentioned existed before he took office. Even before Clinton and Reagan took office. We have sold our country out little by little to the Chinese for DECADES! The education you talk about should be proof enough that the more money you throw at it, the worse it gets. It would seem throwing any more at it isn't going to fix it no more than ANY president has ever improved it.

We can all agree that this country is going to shit but to assume that it wasn't going to shit before Bush took office is simply ignoring the past.

Your status quo attitude is what is sinking this country. And you say spending more money on education is useless? Are you nuts?
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RE: Far right fixing to bail on Bush?

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1 good thing:
-The invasion of Afghanistan.

That is/was a just and right response to 9-11. The subsequent placement of the rebuilding and search for Osama on the back burner is another matter however.

I'm reserving judgement on the Roberts appointment, but it appears this might end up in the good category.
i see our man skirted the question with the slyness of a repub politician.

let's say Afganistan was handled approp, anything else?



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Most people just chose the lesser evil of the two rich guys that was running for office.
Lesser evil? By whose definition? The dipsh!t just sank this country. Since he was elected, he lied about a war, this country has less college grads, 50% of the high school kids can't read nor write, we lagged behind in technological development, even China produces more scientists, the country is run by a bunch of right wing religious nuts.......need I say more? Fock Bush and his Fascist cronies.
You seem to imply that all those problems occurred because he is president. All the problems you mentioned existed before he took office. Even before Clinton and Reagan took office. We have sold our country out little by little to the Chinese for DECADES! The education you talk about should be proof enough that the more money you throw at it, the worse it gets. It would seem throwing any more at it isn't going to fix it no more than ANY president has ever improved it.

We can all agree that this country is going to shit but to assume that it wasn't going to shit before Bush took office is simply ignoring the past.

Your status quo attitude is what is sinking this country. And you say spending more money on education is useless? Are you nuts?
we definately should leave at least a couple of children behind.. it would just be too lonely for one there all by him/her self.. education is WAY over-rated..
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I am always amused at the people who complain at the "deep hatred" towards Bush - the same people who were enthralled by a presidential blow job impeachment. Bush is a murdering pig who has sent thousands of innocent people to their deaths. I hate him for the same reason I hate Hitler. You guys, on the other hand, hated Clinton with a passion, apparently on the grounds he got more head than you did. If you clowns had a moral bone in your body, you would easily see that Libby The Liar is just another Bushite, the whole damn bunch being nothing but liars who lied us into a war for the sake of murder and robbery. Quit being gutless moral cowards and admit the man you support sold us all a load of WMD crap, a load of crap that you bought that you now want us all to believe doesn't smell like shit.
If Libby is liar, he will be convicted, and serve the time as specified by law. I am an advocate of LAW. You, are an emotional wreck that is just frustrated by your party's inability to make a case on the merits to the American public.
Your langauge no longer communicates. What can you say that is more extreme than " Bush is Hitler"? The majority of the people do not share your extremist views.
Your side is riddled with coruption; as a group, they are no more moral than the republicans. Thre is no moral high ground. You constantly posted references to Kerry's web site, purporting to show that he had released all his service records. That was simply not true. He still has not signed the very simple form that would permit the release of his full service records. By itself, this is not a big point, but Kerry made such a show of posting his records, and you made such a show of claiming it was the complete record, when, in simple fact, it was not. You are as political as Rove or Liddy, and would slant or spin the story to your advantge.
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I am always amused at the people who complain at the "deep hatred" towards Bush - the same people who were enthralled by a presidential blow job impeachment. Bush is a murdering pig who has sent thousands of innocent people to their deaths. I hate him for the same reason I hate Hitler. You guys, on the other hand, hated Clinton with a passion, apparently on the grounds he got more head than you did. If you clowns had a moral bone in your body, you would easily see that Libby The Liar is just another Bushite, the whole damn bunch being nothing but liars who lied us into a war for the sake of murder and robbery. Quit being gutless moral cowards and admit the man you support sold us all a load of WMD crap, a load of crap that you bought that you now want us all to believe doesn't smell like shit.
If Libby is liar, he will be convicted, and serve the time as specified by law. I am an advocate of LAW. You, are an emotional wreck that is just frustrated by your party's inability to make a case on the merits to the American public.
Your langauge no longer communicates. What can you say that is more extreme than " Bush is Hitler"? The majority of the people do not share your extremist views.
Your side is riddled with coruption; as a group, they are no more moral than the republicans. Thre is no moral high ground. You constantly posted references to Kerry's web site, purporting to show that he had released all his service records. That was simply not true. He still has not signed the very simple form that would permit the release of his full service records. By itself, this is not a big point, but Kerry made such a show of posting his records, and you made such a show of claiming it was the complete record, when, in simple fact, it was not. You are as political as Rove or Liddy, and would slant or spin the story to your advantge.
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RE: Far right fixing to bail on Bush?

The focus should be on the WMD lies not the CIA leaks...
Again this is another shot over the bow to deflect attention from the real issue.
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The focus should be on the WMD lies not the CIA leaks...
Again this is another shot over the bow to deflect attention from the real issue.
lol. which one shall we see first? hmmm. ok, ok here:




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RE: Far right fixing to bail on Bush?

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I am always amused at the people who complain at the "deep hatred" towards Bush - the same people who were enthralled by a presidential blow job impeachment. Bush is a murdering pig who has sent thousands of innocent people to their deaths. I hate him for the same reason I hate Hitler. You guys, on the other hand, hated Clinton with a passion, apparently on the grounds he got more head than you did. If you clowns had a moral bone in your body, you would easily see that Libby The Liar is just another Bushite, the whole damn bunch being nothing but liars who lied us into a war for the sake of murder and robbery. Quit being gutless moral cowards and admit the man you support sold us all a load of WMD crap, a load of crap that you bought that you now want us all to believe doesn't smell like shit.
If Libby is liar, he will be convicted, and serve the time as specified by law. I am an advocate of LAW. You, are an emotional wreck that is just frustrated by your party's inability to make a case on the merits to the American public.
Your langauge no longer communicates. What can you say that is more extreme than " Bush is Hitler"? The majority of the people do not share your extremist views.
Your side is riddled with coruption; as a group, they are no more moral than the republicans. Thre is no moral high ground. You constantly posted references to Kerry's web site, purporting to show that he had released all his service records. That was simply not true. He still has not signed the very simple form that would permit the release of his full service records. By itself, this is not a big point, but Kerry made such a show of posting his records, and you made such a show of claiming it was the complete record, when, in simple fact, it was not. You are as political as Rove or Liddy, and would slant or spin the story to your advantge.
I really would like to know how you objectively view Bush's performance. Much of the bellyaching you object to is based on the political spin of his campaigns, which, once he was appointed or won (depending on your outlook) he abandoned. I asked this above and ask again, specifically in reference to the previous post suggesting the nation was heading into a toilet already occupied by a deposit of fecal matter:

Well, when you objectively view Bush's performance, do you see any redeeming factors that would distinguish his efforts, to, say, slow the conversion of America from the idealistic nation it once was to the apparent end result of shit? I may not be all that objective anymore, but my view suggests he has made a net positive contribution to the rate of the conversion to shit, and the net quantitiy and intensity of the unappealing features of the shit we are becoming.

There is nothing worse than hearing Bush's critically poor performance on all fronts of being President compared to mediocre stints or failed terms of earlier Presidents and suggest Bush's performance should be viewed as being acceptable because it is not that much worse, or generally indistinguishable from the work of other bumbling, incompetent and distrustful, lying politicians. He should be held up to his promises in his campaign. Bringing the nation together, working both sides of the Senate and House, openness, truthfulness and "bringing honor back to the Whitehouse," which he has failed at miserably."

Overall I think there is a lot of hiding behind the claims of unreasonable party politics. If you sift out the obvious stuff, like picking on his diction and other grossly obvious shortcomings (that could easily be overlooked if there was some equally apparent leadership in a time of crisis, or other redeeming traits) there is really not much left to distinguish him, other than his failed initiatives. Even Afghanistan has been a failure. We set out to get Osamma and have not done that. We didn't even get the big Taliban turkeys. Going into Afghanistan may have been justified by 9-11, but going in and failing to get the prick Osamma wan't. Jim
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i see our man skirted the question with the slyness of a repub politician.

let's say Afganistan was handled approp, anything else?
Are you calling me a republican politician?????
You gotta be kidding me! Hell, I voted for Kerry, but I didn't enjoy it. Social liberal, fiscal conservative here.
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