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Old 10-14-2005, 09:13 PM   #11 (permalink)
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RE: More fake news from the Bush Administration

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"So long as I'm the president, we're never going to back down, we're never going to give in, we'll never accept anything less than total victory," Bush said.

The president told them twice that the American people were behind them.

"You've got tremendous support here at home," Bush said.

Wow, the only thing that he got right was the first part about so long as hes in office he'll never give up.
So, you represent a large contingent of individuals who do not support the troops?
Bada-boom!
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RE: More fake news from the Bush Administration

thats why i HATE reading these.....it always makes me SOOOO mad, by the time i'm done reading it......

dammit! whats wrong with this world!?

why can't we all just enjoy each other?

why does some guy have to run the entire country?

isnt that what we would call a dictatorship, if it was saddaam, or fidel, or adolf?

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Old 10-14-2005, 09:24 PM   #13 (permalink)
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"So long as I'm the president, we're never going to back down, we're never going to give in, we'll never accept anything less than total victory," Bush said.

The president told them twice that the American people were behind them.

"You've got tremendous support here at home," Bush said.

Wow, the only thing that he got right was the first part about so long as hes in office he'll never give up.
So, you represent a large contingent of individuals who do not support the troops?
individuals should SUPPORT the TROOPS (people)....

individuals should be NASTY towards the GOVERNMENT that COMMANDS THEM ABOUT!
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Old 10-14-2005, 09:29 PM   #14 (permalink)
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thats why i HATE reading these.....it always makes me SOOOO mad, by the time i'm done reading it......

dammit! whats wrong with this world!?

why can't we all just enjoy each other?

why does some guy have to run the entire country?

isnt that what we would call a dictatorship, if it was saddaam, or fidel, or adolf?
Did you vote in the most recent presidential election? Did anybody threaten you with a wood-chipper death if you failed to vote for a certain candidate?

If you don't know the difference between a representative democracy with free elections and an absolute dictatorship, you should not be allowed to graduate from high school. Have you graduated?

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Old 10-14-2005, 11:46 PM   #15 (permalink)
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I'm shocked, SHOCKED to see politicians using "staged" events.
Bust must be a genius to be the first politician to ever reherse a live event. I'm sure it has never been done before. No democrat would ever stage an event for favorable publicity would they?
I don't know of any democrat who has done it as much and as shamelessly as Bush-o-mon. And then there's the staged news reports from some psuedo reporter who was actually presented Bush admin. propaganda to the public but acting like it was breaking news.

Bush/Rove are shaammmmeless.
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Old 10-15-2005, 04:45 AM   #16 (permalink)
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RE: More fake news from the Bush Administration

OK, lets review a few of the recent ones....
President and mrs Clinton, on vacation, dancing in a close embrace while wearing their swim suits. No music playing. Photographers present and told where to stand. Only one picture is printed, in the LA Times. In a subsequent press conference, press secretary, Mike McCurry, is highly critical of the press for that invasion of privacy--printing a picture of a "private moment". The reporters all say, "What picture"? Next day the pisture is in every newspaper. The timing?--just a week or two before the Monica story broke.

Another with Pres. Clinton-- On his visit to commemorate 50 years since D Day. While strolling on Omaha beach, he stoops down and picks up some stones and arranges them in the form of a cross, as a lone battleship glides by in the distance. Press photographers were present at just the right spot to catch the image of the President, the cross of stones and the Battleship. Oh, there are no stones on Pmaha beach-they had been placed there by an aide.

How about one more... President Clinton, on the same visit to Europe as above, visiting a US veterans cemetery in Italy. All the graves are decorated with small US flags; all neatly arranged....except one. The one ascew flag is right in front of the President, who, with a tear in his eye, stoops to straighten it up. Photographers "happen" to capture the moment.

I am not critical of President Clinton, or his staff, for arranging these Kodak moments. Every politician will do the same. Good publicity is the coin of their realm. What I find amusing is the lack of critical thinking on behalf of so many citizens who think Bush is a scoundrel for doing the same.
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Old 10-15-2005, 11:38 AM   #17 (permalink)
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Roosevelt standing behind a desk, car, boat rail, etc.
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Old 10-15-2005, 03:11 PM   #18 (permalink)
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OK, lets review a few of the recent ones....
President and mrs Clinton, on vacation, dancing in a close embrace while wearing their swim suits. No music playing. Photographers present and told where to stand. Only one picture is printed, in the LA Times. In a subsequent press conference, press secretary, Mike McCurry, is highly critical of the press for that invasion of privacy--printing a picture of a "private moment". The reporters all say, "What picture"? Next day the pisture is in every newspaper. The timing?--just a week or two before the Monica story broke.

Another with Pres. Clinton-- On his visit to commemorate 50 years since D Day. While strolling on Omaha beach, he stoops down and picks up some stones and arranges them in the form of a cross, as a lone battleship glides by in the distance. Press photographers were present at just the right spot to catch the image of the President, the cross of stones and the Battleship. Oh, there are no stones on Pmaha beach-they had been placed there by an aide.

How about one more... President Clinton, on the same visit to Europe as above, visiting a US veterans cemetery in Italy. All the graves are decorated with small US flags; all neatly arranged....except one. The one ascew flag is right in front of the President, who, with a tear in his eye, stoops to straighten it up. Photographers "happen" to capture the moment.

I am not critical of President Clinton, or his staff, for arranging these Kodak moments. Every politician will do the same. Good publicity is the coin of their realm. What I find amusing is the lack of critical thinking on behalf of so many citizens who think Bush is a scoundrel for doing the same.
The difference that I think is important to note between Clinton and GWB, is that Clinton never used the military as a mode of propaganda. He never planted questions in the troops to try to make the war look better than it really is. Not even LBJ did this with Vietnam, he just straight lied himself.
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Old 10-15-2005, 05:52 PM   #19 (permalink)
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OK, lets review a few of the recent ones....
President and mrs Clinton, on vacation, dancing in a close embrace while wearing their swim suits. No music playing. Photographers present and told where to stand. Only one picture is printed, in the LA Times. In a subsequent press conference, press secretary, Mike McCurry, is highly critical of the press for that invasion of privacy--printing a picture of a "private moment". The reporters all say, "What picture"? Next day the pisture is in every newspaper. The timing?--just a week or two before the Monica story broke.

Another with Pres. Clinton-- On his visit to commemorate 50 years since D Day. While strolling on Omaha beach, he stoops down and picks up some stones and arranges them in the form of a cross, as a lone battleship glides by in the distance. Press photographers were present at just the right spot to catch the image of the President, the cross of stones and the Battleship. Oh, there are no stones on Pmaha beach-they had been placed there by an aide.

How about one more... President Clinton, on the same visit to Europe as above, visiting a US veterans cemetery in Italy. All the graves are decorated with small US flags; all neatly arranged....except one. The one ascew flag is right in front of the President, who, with a tear in his eye, stoops to straighten it up. Photographers "happen" to capture the moment.

I am not critical of President Clinton, or his staff, for arranging these Kodak moments. Every politician will do the same. Good publicity is the coin of their realm. What I find amusing is the lack of critical thinking on behalf of so many citizens who think Bush is a scoundrel for doing the same.
The difference that I think is important to note between Clinton and GWB, is that Clinton never used the military as a mode of propaganda. He never planted questions in the troops to try to make the war look better than it really is. Not even LBJ did this with Vietnam, he just straight lied himself.
Duh, of course he never used the military, doing so would only call attention to his clever manipulation of the system to avoid military service.

Each politician will play to their strengths, not their weaknesses. Clinton's greatest strength was in working a crowd. His obvious affection for people always worked for him, and still does.

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RE: More fake news from the Bush Administration

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I'm shocked, SHOCKED to see politicians using "staged" events.
Bust must be a genius to be the first politician to ever reherse a live event. I'm sure it has never been done before. No democrat would ever stage an event for favorable publicity would they?
I am always amazed at the response of those who made all that noise about bringing all this honesty and integrity to the White House when their Boy George gets caught pulling his pud. Instead of being SHOCKED by the fact that their Boy George was actually caught, pud in hand, and pulling on it, they defend him by saying the equivalent of "everyone is pulling their pud." I categorically reject that argument from my kids when they either want to do something I think is inappropriate, or get caught doing something inappropriate. They don't do it anymore, and have become a little more careful about what they do or how they do it. And a lot more inventive when they offer a rationale for their potential plan to engage in inappropriate activities, or after the fact excuses. I find it revealingly two faced when I hear Georgey Boy's supporters resort to an argument my kids find too weak to try. It is too bad George is such a disappointment. It is at least equally disappointing to see such blind devotion to him that you forget the foamy, frothing effluent from your mouth about how He was going to bring higher standards of behavior to the White House when confronted with reality of His underachieving, mediocre character. Jim
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