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post #11 of 21 (permalink) Old 10-07-2005, 08:07 PM
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What can you do?
Those of us that this bothers already voted against him. Those of us that this appeals to are all to ready to prosecute there holy war. Unfortunately, there is a substantial portion of the evangelical community that really believe that we're near the end of days. It's damn scary.
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Another example of religion softening the brain. You can only vote him out: good luck with that.
We can't even do that JJL! Therefore I pose the question... what can you do? I could vote for all DEMs in the 06 elections and that may just be an idea. I think that working to ensure a Republican minority in the next elections may be the only way to send a message to the current administration.

Now someone's going to say that the dems suck too, but they couldn't possibly suck as bad as the corrupt, inept, social conservative, ID morons we have now.
The truly revolutionary event that could happen, and just might if Bush keeps it up, is the election of two thirds majorities of Democrats in both houses. The way the COTUS is designed, this makes the President and the judiciary irrelevent - it is designed that way, as Jefferson felt this mechanism would prevent armed revolutions and allow for revolutions to take place peaceably in Congress. And it works - it has happened only three times in our history, with the liberals always the beneficiary: with the post-Civil War Congress that passed the 13th, 14th and 15th Amendments, which changed this country from a collection of evil/good states into a single country, in 1930 when Roosevelt's New Deal Congress changed the entire relationship between the haves and the have nots, and again in 1964, when the Dems came in on the wave of the Kennedy assasination and ushered in the Civil Rights Era. Only once did it usher in a Congress that was contra-posed to the President in office, in 1865. Congress almost impeached Andrew Johnson, and pretty much cut his balls off anyway. Wouldn't I love to see old Bushie get a dose of that.

Recall that earlier generations faced down fascism and communism not just with missiles and tanks, but with sturdy alliances and enduring convictions. They understood that our power alone cannot protect us, nor does it entitle us to do as we please. Instead, they knew that our power grows through its prudent use; our security emanates from the justness of our cause, the force of our example, the tempering qualities of humility and restraint.

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Iraq constitution 'approved'
From: Reuters By Andrew Quinn And Mariam Karouny in Baghdad
October 17, 2005

IRAQI voters have probably approved a new US-backed constitution, overcoming fierce Sunni Arab opposition in a vote Washington hopes will boost its beleaguered Iraq strategy, results show.

Early counts from yesterday's referendum indicate the vote has split, as expected, along largely communal lines, reflecting the bitter ethnic and religious tensions that have cost thousands of Iraqi lives since the US-led invasion in 2003.
Tight security kept the polls mostly peaceful although five US soldiers were killed in the Sunni west, the military said.

Despite high turnout in some Sunni Arab areas, partial counts have suggested the charter's opponents did not muster enough 'no' votes to veto it. According to the referendum rules, a two-thirds no vote in three of Iraq's 18 provinces would block the constitution even if most Iraqis backed it.

"All indications we are getting ... are encouraging and positive for a yes vote for this constitution. This would be really a major achievement," Foreign Minister Hoshyar Zebari said. "So my guess is, yes, it will be passed."

US Secretary of State Condoleezza Rice, speaking in London as votes were counted in Iraq, said the constitution had probably passed - angering some Sunni leaders who accused her of pressuring Iraqi officials to fix the result.


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Dr Rice later said the final tally was still not known, but that a 'yes' vote would help turn the tide against a Sunni Arab insurgency which has pushed Iraq close to civil war.
"The key here is the Sunnis have voted in large numbers. One way or another, the Iraqis will be in a position to move forward," Dr Rice said.

"You defeat an insurgency politically as well as militarily. It will take time... an insurgency cannot ultimately survive without a political base."

Five soldiers were killed by a roadside bomb that wrecked their vehicle in the insurgent stronghold of Ramadi, taking the number of Americans to die in the Iraq war to at least 1970.

A US statement gave no details, but Ramadi police reported that a Bradley fighting vehicle had been destroyed, suggesting the use of one of the more powerful devices that US commanders say insurgents have developed this year.

Electoral Commission chief Hussein al-Hendawi said turnout was running at 63-64 per cent, above the 58 per cent seen in January when many Sunnis boycotted the country's first elections after the fall of Saddam Hussein, who is a Sunni.

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a new US-backed constitution
In other words, a fraud. Wouldn't an Iraqi-backed constitution been a tad more legitimate?

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This story has been around for a while. The guy is a nutcase and this stupid country voted for him. We are going into one hell of a depression, and we are in an unwinnable war. Better luck next time, suckers.
exactly.........

the day they start a draft, for some BS Bush war, i'm SO renouncing US citizenship, and dis-appearing back to Germany.....
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This story has been around for a while. The guy is a nutcase and this stupid country voted for him. We are going into one hell of a depression, and we are in an unwinnable war. Better luck next time, suckers.
exactly.........

the day they start a draft, for some BS Bush war, i'm SO renouncing US citizenship, and dis-appearing back to Germany.....
Do you need help booking the flight? Can you leave tomorrow? I shall look up the flight info for you. Do you want a window or aisle seat? Can you take Kvining with you? He will hold ur hand.........

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a new US-backed constitution
In other words, a fraud. Wouldn't an Iraqi-backed constitution been a tad more legitimate?
Apparently, 60-odd percent of Iraqis voted concerning the constitution (ie, for or against). Even if 100% voted against the constitution, it would still be a victory for democracy. According to the news scuttlebutt, the vote will carry.

Now in the western world, when the majority of people vote and the majority of them favor something, we call that 'legimate.'

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Ill pay for your ticket . see ya


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Bot, he's gonna pay for your ticket, how funny is that? Spend that ticket money on some Evelyn Wood Reading Comprehension classes, buddy.

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