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RE: Islamic Invasion

jjl - 10/7/2005 8:58 PM

Shabah - 10/8/2005 11:44 PM

jjl, there is no room for hate for grown ups to talk and be constructive. If it is the deal of the century then by all means we ALL need to talk.
Are we not all tired of centuries of murdering each other so we can gain a fleeting upper hand? The more each side thinks that it is right the deeper the divide, the greater is the slaughter while ignorance thrives and reign supreme. Who the hell is benefiting from this crap? Certainly it is not you or me “the commoners� of this earth. How about our children? I don’t want to see them drafted into misplaced ideologies, religious zealousness and wasted lives.
jjl I do take into account your education because you had that privilege of exposure that I never had and could never have. You see I am not the product of some university as I never went beyond third grade in elementary school if you can call a madrassa a school. So yes I am sensitive when it comes to REAL discussions and I will admit that I have a complex brought in by trying to catch up. Should I give up and join the ignorant to make my life simpler? Would that make your kind breath better as I learn my place in this world, fall in rank, shut it and be a good camel jockey for your amusement?
I entirely agree with the first half of what you say. As for education, why feel sensitive? From what I see you have corrected that through your own efforts, and admirable it is too. I don't know who 'my kind' are, I'm just another guy, not part of any elite. Your place in this world is the same as mine, and everyone else's: we are equals, and all have the same rights and freedoms, and we should fight like hell to stop anyone taking them away. The tricky part is deciding who is trying to do that to us. From my POV that's where religion comes in, because I see this as the main threat to intellectual and even physical freedom across the world. The Christian Church, pre Rennaisance, ruthlessly persecuted non-believers and heretics, ruling through tyranny and relying on ignorance. When their power was broken, the new intellectual freedom produced the flowering of art and science of the last few centuries. But this never happened with Islam (except around 1000 years ago when, for a short period, a more liberal attitude promoted science). Islam is still where we were, then, and there seems to be no likelihood of change. Everything I have read on this subject points to a huge conflict approaching with a sickening inevitability. I have a very, very bad feeling about it. Please say it isn't so.
Like he said, the socialist twit.

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