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My theory on taxes is pretty simple. Those who get the greatest benefits of the free enterprise system, namely the rich, should pay more for the privilege than those who don't.
And my theory is that we should all pay according to services rendered. In lieu of that, everyone should pay the same amount.
The problem is, "pay-as-you-go" taxing is hard to implement. For instance, part of my property taxes go to funding public education, even though I don't have any kids. I would argue that I'm still receiving a benefit from those taxes in the form of an educated populace, but other child-free couples might not feel the same way.

And for "everyone paying the same amount", the catch with that is that if you were to simply divide the government's revenue requirements evenly among *all* the citizens, the resulting fixed dollar amount would be a pittance to the wealthy, but a huge burden to those in the poorer classes.

I really don't mind paying more in taxes than some other people pay. In fact, it's kind of a "social insurance" - if relaxing the tax burden on the lower classes keeps them from picking up pitchforks and torches, then I'm all for it.

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... if relaxing the tax burden on the lower classes keeps them from picking up pitchforks and torches, then I'm all for it.
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I had brought this up on another forum a while back, and we ultimately decided that the cost would be about $5K per annum per citizen. Of course, part of the puzzle would be downsizing the federal government.

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My theory on taxes is pretty simple. Those who get the greatest benefits of the free enterprise system, namely the rich, should pay more for the privilege than those who don't.
And my theory is that we should all pay according to services rendered. In lieu of that, everyone should pay the same amount.
The problem is, "pay-as-you-go" taxing is hard to implement. For instance, part of my property taxes go to funding public education, even though I don't have any kids. I would argue that I'm still receiving a benefit from those taxes in the form of an educated populace, but other child-free couples might not feel the same way.

And for "everyone paying the same amount", the catch with that is that if you were to simply divide the government's revenue requirements evenly among *all* the citizens, the resulting fixed dollar amount would be a pittance to the wealthy, but a huge burden to those in the poorer classes.

I really don't mind paying more in taxes than some other people pay. In fact, it's kind of a "social insurance" - if relaxing the tax burden on the lower classes keeps them from picking up pitchforks and torches, then I'm all for it.

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Spoken like a bourgoi.
You spell like a Proletarian.

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I had brought this up on another forum a while back, and we ultimately decided that the cost would be about $5K per annum per citizen. Of course, part of the puzzle would be downsizing the federal government.
There you have it. The REAL problem is government fraud, waste, and abuse. I think taxes wouldn't be quite as hated, if we knew that it was going to an efficient representative entity, instead of the bloated ineffective pandering bureaucracy (both parties do this in different ways) we have today. I don't care if its 10% or 20%, its too damn much looking at how its being used today.

IMO, part of the problem is people who blindly follow one party or the other. I don't care if he is giving too much money to _________ (Halliburton/Welfare Queens) I like his stance on ________ (abortion/unions). I'd like to get back to the days when the business of America (infrastructure and economic sanity) came first and social issues and imperialism took a back seat.
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Spoken like a bourgoi.
You spell like a Proletarian.
espèce de bourgeois
espèce de bourgeois
Tu te rend compte que c’est moi
Sure Shabah’s bitte tu t’assois
Tu manges de la brioche au foi
Alors que le peuple est au froid
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