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post #11 of 17 (permalink) Old 09-24-2005, 09:01 PM
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Exactly how did the front landing gear manage to get so bent out of shape?,... sorry didn't get the whole news.
The A318-19-20 Airbus front gear doesn't stay in plane (no pun intended) as it retracts, rather it rotates and folds as it retracts. Looks like it simply rotated and didn't continue to retract, nor did it return to normal when the crew tried that.

There are at least 7 other instances of pretty much the same thing with this Airbus design; the FAA calls it statistically insignificant. Considering that Airbus airframes use a substantial amount of composites, I was impressed that the front gear didn't snap off.

We happened to tune in just as it was happening and caught it live; during the replay I looked at my aunt and asked her, "Do you think there were any atheists on board during final approach?"
Interesting question. I can't recall having a slo-mo death threat like that. Most things that have almost done me in I either missed entirely or happened so fast I reacted without thinking (meaning, luck played a starring role).

I wonder if there is time function which plays a role in sprituality. IOW, if somethign happens so fast that you only get the "Oh..." ot of "Oh Shit!" religion may not play a role. But if the threat is of longer duration and one has an opportunity to consider one's prospects, maybe that is when thoughts of God, sin, redemption and salvation become important.

Also, there is probably an upper bound to time, too. Like, if you have a lifetime of years ahead of you, you may not take such an immidiate interest in your everlasting soul.

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Yes yes. If you have say 20 minutes until imminent doom wouldn't you think even KV would secretly pray to something or someone. I mean wheres the harm? I would say, 6 minutes to completely drain the liqour cart including several expulsions of vomitus, 5 minutes searching for the med cabinet for a morphine syringe, 1 minute to tie off and hit it, and eight remaining minutes to ponder exsistence and pray to something.

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Yes yes. If you have say 20 minutes until imminent doom wouldn't you think even KV would secretly pray to something or someone. I mean wheres the harm? I would say, 6 minutes to completely drain the liqour cart including several expulsions of vomitus, 5 minutes searching for the med cabinet for a morphine syringe, 1 minute to tie off and hit it, and eight remaining minutes to ponder exsistence and pray to something.
after ALL THAT, i dont think he'll be pondering and praying anything....[:0]
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Yes yes. If you have say 20 minutes until imminent doom wouldn't you think even KV would secretly pray to something or someone. I mean wheres the harm? I would say, 6 minutes to completely drain the liqour cart including several expulsions of vomitus, 5 minutes searching for the med cabinet for a morphine syringe, 1 minute to tie off and hit it, and eight remaining minutes to ponder exsistence and pray to something.
I had an extended near death experience once, and prayer never came into it. I was stuck very high up on a rock face with no equipment and no reliable means of continuing my ascent. I was actually frozen on the rock until I pondered my life for a few moments, then realized it was over. Once I completely accepted my death, I was able to continue, since there was no longer a substantial risk. I never scrambled up 600 ft. rock faces again without proper safety equipment.

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I have nearly checked out 3 times and not once has god or any form of spirituality entered my mind on those occaisions.The last time, a few years ago now,all i could think of was my kids.


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The loss of the nose gear and subsequent landing doesn't rate all that high in terms of difficulty. It has happened many times in the past. Nose gear that doesn't extend and the fueselage contacts the runway. It really isn't that big of a deal.

Now, when one of the main gear trucks fails to extend, you have yourself a far more serious situation. The pilot has to land the airplane on ONE main gear, carefully balance it on that gear for as long as possible using the ailerons, and then gently set it down on the wing engine. This is a very difficult procedure and presents far more risk than a simple nose gear failure.

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