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Two hosts at the liberal radio network Air America are defending Nation of Islam leader Minister Louis Farrakhan - saying he's not wrong to suspect that white people deliberately blew up the levees in New Orleans.

"You cannot blame people for coming up with conspiracy theories," Air America host Chuck D. said, after he was asked Thursday about the paranoid pronouncement by MSNBC's Tucker Carlson.

"They look on television and see that the government is four days late in saving people [who are] supposed to be their citizens," Chuck D. explained.

Carlson gave him a second chance to denounce Farrakhan's lunatic declaration, saying, "You're a smart guy. You know that white people didn't blow up the levees to kill black people. You've gotta know that didn't happen."

But the Air America host refused to budge, insisting instead that there was a chance Farrakhan could be right.

"I can't say unless I know for sure what's the actual facts and what's actually false," the rapper-turned-talk host said.

Carlson tried a third time, telling Chuck D.: "Look, I can say for certain that it was not a white conspiracy. White people did not blow up the levee to kill black people."

Still, the radio lefty wouldn't denounce Farrakhan's poisonous rant, saying only, "I don't think it's a person at fault but I think the system needs revamping."

After failing to persuade Chuck D., the MSNBC host turned to panelist Rachel Maddow, who also hosts a show on Air America.

Asked if she believed that white people deliberately destroyed the levees, Maddow declined to render a personal judgment - and instead defended the sentiment behind the toxic hypothesis.

"Conspiracy theories don't necessarily help but you have to understand where they come from," she told Carlson. "They come from people feeling like this disaster had a real racial component. I mean, it was a majority-black city that was absolutely abandoned by the country."

On Monday, Farrakhan uncorked his ugly theory, telling a North Carolina audience: "I heard from a very reliable source who saw a 25 foot deep crater under the levee breach. It may have been blown up to destroy the black part of town and keep the white part dry."
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He could have used those nasty bean pies that they hawk to shore them up.

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Two hosts at the liberal radio network Air America are defending Nation of Islam leader Minister Louis Farrakhan - saying he's not wrong to suspect that white people deliberately blew up the levees in New Orleans.

"You cannot blame people for coming up with conspiracy theories," Air America host Chuck D. said, after he was asked Thursday about the paranoid pronouncement by MSNBC's Tucker Carlson.

"They look on television and see that the government is four days late in saving people [who are] supposed to be their citizens," Chuck D. explained.

Carlson gave him a second chance to denounce Farrakhan's lunatic declaration, saying, "You're a smart guy. You know that white people didn't blow up the levees to kill black people. You've gotta know that didn't happen."

But the Air America host refused to budge, insisting instead that there was a chance Farrakhan could be right.

"I can't say unless I know for sure what's the actual facts and what's actually false," the rapper-turned-talk host said.

Carlson tried a third time, telling Chuck D.: "Look, I can say for certain that it was not a white conspiracy. White people did not blow up the levee to kill black people."

Still, the radio lefty wouldn't denounce Farrakhan's poisonous rant, saying only, "I don't think it's a person at fault but I think the system needs revamping."

After failing to persuade Chuck D., the MSNBC host turned to panelist Rachel Maddow, who also hosts a show on Air America.

Asked if she believed that white people deliberately destroyed the levees, Maddow declined to render a personal judgment - and instead defended the sentiment behind the toxic hypothesis.

"Conspiracy theories don't necessarily help but you have to understand where they come from," she told Carlson. "They come from people feeling like this disaster had a real racial component. I mean, it was a majority-black city that was absolutely abandoned by the country."

On Monday, Farrakhan uncorked his ugly theory, telling a North Carolina audience: "I heard from a very reliable source who saw a 25 foot deep crater under the levee breach. It may have been blown up to destroy the black part of town and keep the white part dry."
It's almost impossible to make stuff like that up. "The Onion" is going to have a hard time staying ahead of Farrakhan + Air America.

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Farrakhan is a racist himslef, Alfa whay are you taking him seriously?
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Farrakhan is a racist himslef, Alfa whay are you taking him seriously?
Shabah, what do real Muslims think of that outfit?

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Farrakhan is a racist himslef, Alfa whay are you taking him seriously?
Shabah, what do real Muslims think of that outfit?

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Well Bot, most (my circle of people) think he is crazy, dangerous and needs to be ignored so he can go away. Some other idiots know he is an idiot too but hey as long as he is a "thorn" in America than he is some hero.
The bottom line he is not really a Muslim nor does he really practice Islam. I am not much of a religious dude but I got to respect Islam in its purist form about racism. The religion does not tolerate racism, class structure and other inequalities, unfortunately Islamic culture is fucked up to the hilt because there are and were so many ignorant imams and charlatans that gave their own interpretations for whatever suited them. I am not going to decipher the religion to explain any deeper as I admit I am not that knowledgably; I mean I don’t pretend to know unlike most of the idiots running around pretending to live by the book.
Anyway, going back to Farrakhan, I think he is a pompous pus.
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He's more of a Jew-baiter and hater than anything else.

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Farrakhan is a racist himslef, Alfa whay are you taking him seriously?
Shabah, what do real Muslims think of that outfit?

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Well Bot, most (my circle of people) think he is crazy, dangerous and needs to be ignored so he can go away. Some other idiots know he is an idiot too but hey as long as he is a "thorn" in America than he is some hero.
The bottom line he is not really a Muslim nor does he really practice Islam. I am not much of a religious dude but I got to respect Islam in its purist form about racism. The religion does not tolerate racism, class structure and other inequalities, unfortunately Islamic culture is fucked up to the hilt because there are and were so many ignorant imams and charlatans that gave their own interpretations for whatever suited them. I am not going to decipher the religion to explain any deeper as I admit I am not that knowledgably; I mean I don’t pretend to know unlike most of the idiots running around pretending to live by the book.
Anyway, going back to Farrakhan, I think he is a pompous pus.
The same criticism applies to any religion. Religions, when doing what they do best, give comfort to the hopeless and downtrodden who have nowhere else to turn. For them a meal is a miracle. No wonder God is real to them and less real or unreal to we who have everything the world can give us.

People who live that life of deprivation and desparation are especially susceptible to people who offer them righteous power through the sword.

Your comments concerning Farrakhan are congruent with the biographical movie, "Malcom X." Remember in that movie when he made his Hadj? That was when he learned the meaning of the totality of submission to God as demanded by true Islam. It changed him to be a better man, which is the whole point of religion, IMO.

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Farrakhan is a racist himslef, Alfa whay are you taking him seriously?
Shabah, what do real Muslims think of that outfit?

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Well Bot, most (my circle of people) think he is crazy, dangerous and needs to be ignored so he can go away. Some other idiots know he is an idiot too but hey as long as he is a "thorn" in America than he is some hero.
The bottom line he is not really a Muslim nor does he really practice Islam. I am not much of a religious dude but I got to respect Islam in its purist form about racism. The religion does not tolerate racism, class structure and other inequalities, unfortunately Islamic culture is fucked up to the hilt because there are and were so many ignorant imams and charlatans that gave their own interpretations for whatever suited them. I am not going to decipher the religion to explain any deeper as I admit I am not that knowledgably; I mean I don’t pretend to know unlike most of the idiots running around pretending to live by the book.
Anyway, going back to Farrakhan, I think he is a pompous pus.
The same criticism applies to any religion. Religions, when doing what they do best, give comfort to the hopeless and downtrodden who have nowhere else to turn. For them a meal is a miracle. No wonder God is real to them and less real or unreal to we who have everything the world can give us.

People who live that life of deprivation and desparation are especially susceptible to people who offer them righteous power through the sword.

Your comments concerning Farrakhan are congruent with the biographical movie, "Malcom X." Remember in that movie when he made his Hadj? That was when he learned the meaning of the totality of submission to God as demanded by true Islam. It changed him to be a better man, which is the whole point of religion, IMO.

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You seem to have dismissed my anti-semitism remark in regard to the Nation of Islam leader. Do you not feel this is reason enough to label him a kook?

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Farrakhan is a racist himslef, Alfa whay are you taking him seriously?
Shabah, what do real Muslims think of that outfit?

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Well Bot, most (my circle of people) think he is crazy, dangerous and needs to be ignored so he can go away. Some other idiots know he is an idiot too but hey as long as he is a "thorn" in America than he is some hero.
The bottom line he is not really a Muslim nor does he really practice Islam. I am not much of a religious dude but I got to respect Islam in its purist form about racism. The religion does not tolerate racism, class structure and other inequalities, unfortunately Islamic culture is fucked up to the hilt because there are and were so many ignorant imams and charlatans that gave their own interpretations for whatever suited them. I am not going to decipher the religion to explain any deeper as I admit I am not that knowledgably; I mean I don’t pretend to know unlike most of the idiots running around pretending to live by the book.
Anyway, going back to Farrakhan, I think he is a pompous pus.
The same criticism applies to any religion. Religions, when doing what they do best, give comfort to the hopeless and downtrodden who have nowhere else to turn. For them a meal is a miracle. No wonder God is real to them and less real or unreal to we who have everything the world can give us.

People who live that life of deprivation and desparation are especially susceptible to people who offer them righteous power through the sword.

Your comments concerning Farrakhan are congruent with the biographical movie, "Malcom X." Remember in that movie when he made his Hadj? That was when he learned the meaning of the totality of submission to God as demanded by true Islam. It changed him to be a better man, which is the whole point of religion, IMO.

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You seem to have dismissed my anti-semitism remark in regard to the Nation of Islam leader. Do you not feel this is reason enough to label him a kook?
I must've dismissed it out of hand without knowing it.

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