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Right, and to point out the differences...

When those attacks occured, how much did the US attempt to intervene in another countries foreign policy, and tell them how to handle the situation? If advise was given and not taken, did we get pissed?

So many people hear the first part of the statement and ignore the intent of the entire thing. When it has happened to everyone else; we offered aid, and let them deal with it in a maner that they saw fit. When we were attacked, why is it such a radical idea to think that we should have been allowed to deal with it as we saw fit. But so much of the One World mentality prevails NOW and it didn't then.

When Arafat had a school bus bomed, why was his house not bombed?
When the IRA decides to kill innocent people, why was the fight not brought to them?

While the world chose to roll over when attacked, we did not. I did not say that we feel you should be there, just for God sakes, if you don't want to help then leave us the hell to our buisness.

The underhanded dealings amongst most of Europe show me the true intent of the people. Get what's best for them while putting on airs about concern for the good of the world.
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If anyone else had been President, Osama'd be dead, and we wouldn't be in Iraq.
That's total BS and you know it... Anyone else might not have us in Iraq, but Osama would still be missing, and you know it to be true.
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We are the mighty after all, and God bless America, while he pisses on the rest of his creation!
This is arrogance on your part in making the comment for two very obvious reasons.

1: My argument has nothing to do with religion.

2: I never have said that I feel America is the best, only that we are the least tolerant of attacks on our people. After all that has gone on in Western Europe in the last thrity years I would be ashamed to be from a majority of the countries there. GB, France, and Germany all used to be very proud and powerful countries that people feared to trouble with. I'm not saying that one needs to be overly aggressive or prideful, but to just roll over tiem and time again. Where is their pride?
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If anyone else had been President, Osama'd be dead, and we wouldn't be in Iraq.
That's total BS and you know it... Anyone else might not have us in Iraq, but Osama would still be missing, and you know it to be true.
Maybe, maybe not -- it's hard to say. But Iraq is the point of contention, not the war on terrorism and Al Qaeda. Iraq divided the American people and the people of the free world at a time when we seemed to be banding together for the good of all. Face it, GW took a golden opportunity and turned it to pure horseshit...

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Here's my issue with that:

With him (Heusein) there and with him gone, do you feel a difference? Even if you can say: "No, not a thing," there are 25 Million people that had to put up with his reign every day who do notice a difference.

I'm suprized that with all the "Greater Good" floating around in the collective conscience of the world, that not one opponent of the war can see that.
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Yes, Saddam gone is a wonderful thing, but saving the Iraqi people certainly wasn't GW's motivation for usurping the government of a sovereign oil-rich nation. And most Iraqis certainly don't see us as their saviors. We've merely replaced one evil with another. I imagine many were more comfortable with a known evil than an unknown evil and a demolished infrastructure. Besides all that, I resent having to pay for for this fool's errand.

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How many Iraqi people have you asked?

My father and both brothers both told me about how happy the people were to have them there, and how much hope they had for the future. Not to mention their hatred and disdain for Sadam.

Besides, if we wanted oil usurping Vicente Fox would have taken all of ten minutes.
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I resent having to pay for for this fool's errand.
Would you be happier if they offered to pay us back?
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I resent having to pay for for this fool's errand.
Would you be happier if they offered to pay us back?
If who offered?

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How many Iraqi people have you asked?

My father and both brothers both told me about how happy the people were to have them there, and how much hope they had for the future. Not to mention their hatred and disdain for Sadam.

Besides, if we wanted oil usurping Vicente Fox would have taken all of ten minutes.
Which Iraqi people? The Shiites or the Sunnis? The Kurds are a foregone conclusion...

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