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RE: How much is enough?
ThrillKill - 9/15/2005 1:25 PM
Jillian80 - 9/15/2005 12:07 PM
ThrillKill - 9/15/2005 11:25 AM
Jillian80 - 9/15/2005 11:11 AM
kvining - 9/15/2005 10:26 AM
ThrillKill - 9/14/2005 11:42 PM
Amazingly, I gotta agree with theboss. Social programs have run their course and have provided us with one thing, another generation of baby birds with their little beaks agape, waiting for more government worms. I am so in the middle if anywhere on politics, actually I find the whole business distasteful and futile, but I do not see any progress from these programs. In fact it appears to hurt the impoverished in the long run, as their initiaitive seems to be stunted by these financial fixes.
What programs? They all ended long ago. The biggest "program" is Medicare and SSI, which go predominately to middle class retirees. Welfare has been "reformed" out of existance. There are really only three programs left that help the poor, only one of which - food stamps - is easy to get. Of the other two, housing assistance has a waiting list of years, and the other, the Earned Income Credit, isn't even claimed by half the people who could qualify for it because they have no assistance filling out an income tax return. Food stamps save us millions in costs associated with malnutrition among poor children, who in the old days grew up crippled and retarded, especially in the Southern states where the bigot fascists wouldn't even see to it that children had milk to drink, making ricketts and childhood blindness rampant in the black society of the time. I get disgusted by the envy and jealously behind the "haves" resentment of the "have nots" getting anything at all - what they do get makes all of our lives better. To those who say this money has been "wasted", I don't see the blind and crippled kids begging for money in the streets of Richmond anymore like I did when I was a kid. I see better education than the assfuck shack they got under Jim Crow, I see a little money to bury them with some dignity when they die instead of shoving them in a mass grave, I see kids wearing decent clothes and mothers getting educated on how to take care of themselves when they are pregnant. I also see a lot of abuse, but tell me, how does that abuse compare to the theiving, rotten greedy bastards who sit on top of the "have" class? Why are we to get all whipped up in a frenzy over some poor sap getting a bottle of wine with his food stamps, when the cocksucker who runs Walmart is hiring 1,000 illegal aliens a day? Or the son of a bitch who runs Halliburton cheering for the next war?
Thank you KV for taking the time to type out what I have been thinking, but was too busy (read:lazy) to type out myself. Traditional welfare ended several years ago. Now, we're training former welfare recipients for menial low-paying jobs that the rest of us don't want to do. Seems fair enough, but could any of you live on minimum wage? Could you raise your family on that? Look at gas prices--I couldn't make it on minimum wage if I drove a horrible Honda Civic Hybrid--and I don't even have any succubus kids!
Maybe we should start bitching about corporate welfare. That's always been the biggest welfare expenditure.
I have rental units(condos), three of which are section 8. The state pays the ENTIRE monthly rent for these units. I'm just a small fish in the sec. 8 world. When I think of the millions in my county alone it's staggering. What do you call that?
I call that reason #1 for sex education in schools and free birth control. Section 8 usually only pays when there are kids involved. This may be easy for me to say because I don't have kids (and never will--they wreck your body and take all your money), but its time to start giving people something else to do with their lives other than pump out more babies. Maybe we could give these people a real opportunity to do something, have something, before
they resort to having kids in order to secure themselves a home.
Just for the sake of the discussion, all three are indeed young women, unmarried with multiple children and African-American.
Like I said, think of the alternative. If there was no Sec 8, where exactly would these people live? When I was growing up in the 60's, I routinely saw families being raised under a bridge. They had hanging sheets for walls, and slept in the dirt. Nobody gave a shit about them. Their kids ended up in the hospitals full of intestinal worms, and grew up to be murderers and criminals. And I am talking about WHITE people in New Hampshire, never mind the poor saps who I saw in Virginia, a place I spent a lot of time in, in my youth. If what we have today prevents that, I'm all for it. The slums of Roxbury, Mass, and Manchester,NH, and especially Richmond, VA, were open sores. Disgusting places. Inhuman. I'm glad they are all gone and replaced by "Da Projects".
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