Originally Posted by GermanStar
As I recall, the initial argument was about 100 pro versus 2 or 3 con, with a couple of additional voices added to our choir by the time VD showed up. He was so prolific and over the top that no one on either side took him very seriously, yet he successfully disrupted the discussions with great regularity. Then you showed up, and instantly became the anti-VD, just as prolific, more lucid, and considerably more profane. Your presence neutralized VD and served as a focal point for the searing hatred of the pro-war crowd, providing maneuvering room for the more restrained arguments of the rest of us.
I believe you first showed up in the midst of a thread in which I was engaged with VD, Spock and a couple of others in a loathsome dialog in which they actively promoted ME genocide. IMO, that was the absolute all time low point for the MS forum. You started your thread a bit later, and over time it grew into a lengthy and detailed chronicle of the invasion.
I was not profane in the beginning.
I do remember of what you speak. VD wanted genocide in Iraq. Spock wanted all "liberals" put in a concentration camp and gassed,. I had expected those of all political stripes to by outraged over his statements, and found instead that everyone divided by political lines and those on the right spoke with their silence on Spock and cheered the blood thirsty criminality of mass murder on the innocent civilians of a defeated nation. After that point, I declared open war. You want genocide? Well, how about a picture of this baby with a bullet hole in the head? How about this web link with clear proof your war is a lie? It was unrelenting on my part, and helped me deal with my own utter hatred of this war and what Bush has done to this nation.
The big WMD thread was started by Cassidy months before I got there. I found it fascinating, watching those who so truly believe something so obviously false collapse in the utter truth of Iraq. It was like watching the wife of an alcoholic go through the stages of mental collapse that occur before she is finally ready to admit hubby has a big problem.
The thread I started was called Bloodbath in Iraq Continues, which eventually closed the forum, twice. It was meant to be as violent, as profane and as viscerely disgusting as the Iraq invasion was. I do believe it succeeded. I see MBS has never really recovered.