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Who was right, Who was Wrong, Who is the Evil Genius, Who was the Fool? You be the Judge............
Right: Me. GermanStar. Z. (add others as needed)

Evil Genius: Dick Cheney

Fool: Botnst. Guage-Alfa, and all the other chickenshits who won't man up to the fact they were wrong.

Recall that earlier generations faced down fascism and communism not just with missiles and tanks, but with sturdy alliances and enduring convictions. They understood that our power alone cannot protect us, nor does it entitle us to do as we please. Instead, they knew that our power grows through its prudent use; our security emanates from the justness of our cause, the force of our example, the tempering qualities of humility and restraint.

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Who was right, Who was Wrong, Who is the Evil Genius, Who was the Fool? You be the Judge............
What are you on about now?

The biggest problems we are facing right now have to do with George Bush trying to bring more and more power into the executive branch and not go through Congress at all and thatís what I intend to reverse.

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What are you on about now?
He's on you
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I'll be damned Jakarta Expat has a chamberlain.

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The biggest problems we are facing right now have to do with George Bush trying to bring more and more power into the executive branch and not go through Congress at all and thatís what I intend to reverse.

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....while Botnst is wearing a chamber pot.

Man up and admit you were wrong.

Recall that earlier generations faced down fascism and communism not just with missiles and tanks, but with sturdy alliances and enduring convictions. They understood that our power alone cannot protect us, nor does it entitle us to do as we please. Instead, they knew that our power grows through its prudent use; our security emanates from the justness of our cause, the force of our example, the tempering qualities of humility and restraint.

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....while Botnst is wearing a chamber pot.

Man up and admit you were wrong.
maybe as soon as he's finished discrediting me, be patient
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maybe as soon as he's finished discrediting me, be patient
That shouldn't take long.

Don't believe everything you think
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That shouldn't take long.
Look who's talking, the shrink! Should I say shrunken head?
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I believe I was right in my support of going to war in Iraq. I am hopeful that the coalition will be successful in helping Iraq set-up a viable form of democracy. The more Middle East Nations that join Israel, Kuwait, Lebanon, Qatar, Bahrain, and Jordan on the march to democracy, the better it will be for the world.

Is that clear enough for you?

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I believe I was right in my support of going to war in Iraq. I am hopeful that the coalition will be successful in helping Iraq set-up a viable form of democracy. The more Middle East Nations that join Israel, Kuwait, Lebanon, Qatar, Bahrain, and Jordan on the march to democracy, the better it will be for the world.

Is that clear enough for you?

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Was it really democracy that formed the backbone of your support for the war? I don't recall that said democracy was on the agenda prior to our invasion as much as WMD and 9/11 culpability, am I wrong on this?
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