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But if God was All Good, how can he allow men to will evil? And if he can't doesn't that mean he is not All Powerful?
Because "all good" has no meaning without comparison or a point of reference.
So you deny that God has the ability to define The Good? In that case, he is not All Powerful. HA! you are beguiled!
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"Good" is a word in the inferior English language of humans. It has no significant meaning on it's own, since it's almost entirely subjective. If he is powerful enough to create self-defining points of reference at will, that'll do. BTW, the OT clearly describes God as being a far cry from all-powerful. There is a strong suggestion in fact, that he needs a therapist.

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But if God was All Good, how can he allow men to will evil? And if he can't doesn't that mean he is not All Powerful?
Your conjecture does not follow a logical progression. Man has been separated from his Creator, as such, the Creator cannot be made responsible for the evil of man. What you failed to consider in my previous post is this: If God did not endow man with free will, he would not have been omnibenevolent (the cosmic rapist reference that would have us be brain washed into loving Him).

The indisputable manifestation of man's free will resides in his capacity, and preponderance, to perpetrate evil.

Further, what you are implicitely looking for are scriptural inconsistencies. When reflecting on how could an omnipotent and omnibenevolent God allow a new born to be afflicted with cancer, any properly endoctrinated clergyman will tell you that the root cause is once again, man, who excluded himself for an earthly paradise for a wise pair of tits and pussy, and consequently called upon himself all kinds of misery. Every once in a while, God helps the government by creating mutating retro viruses to set us back on the path to righteousness, conservative supreme justices, and second generation presidents.

Be it noted that I do not believe in any of that crap.
You are beyond beguiled. Are you taking any medications? I think you missed today's dose. They have these little reminder things to store them in now. Perhaps you should purchase one.
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"Good" is a word in the inferior English language of humans. It has no significant meaning on it's own, since it's almost entirely subjective. If he is powerful enough to create self-defining points of reference at will, that'll do. BTW, the OT clearly describes God as being a far cry from all-powerful. There is a strong suggestion in fact, that he needs a therapist.
Well, can God be All Evil and All Powerful then?
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"Good" is a word in the inferior English language of humans. It has no significant meaning on it's own, since it's almost entirely subjective. If he is powerful enough to create self-defining points of reference at will, that'll do. BTW, the OT clearly describes God as being a far cry from all-powerful. There is a strong suggestion in fact, that he needs a therapist.
Well, can God be All Evil and All Powerful then?
If he is all powerful, he can be whatever he wishes, but evil is also a subjective term that requires a comparison or point of reference. God would need to create that reference for the term to have meaning.

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You are beyond beguiled. Are you taking any medications? I think you missed today's dose. They have these little reminder things to store them in now. Perhaps you should purchase one.
Am I a lesser man for expecting a better repartee from you than that poorly evolved thought?

Admitedly, it takes little to disappoint me, but this is a low point in my short posting career here!
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Ok, I take it back, ex-con is not Alfa, there is no way Alfa will admit that someone has the right to differ because that would be un-American.
So that makes you 0 for 400 [:0]
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"Good" is a word in the inferior English language of humans. It has no significant meaning on it's own, since it's almost entirely subjective. If he is powerful enough to create self-defining points of reference at will, that'll do. BTW, the OT clearly describes God as being a far cry from all-powerful. There is a strong suggestion in fact, that he needs a therapist.
Well, can God be All Evil and All Powerful then?
If he is all powerful, he can be whatever he wishes, but evil is also a subjective term that requires a comparison or point of reference. God would need to create that reference for the term to have meaning.
I have already beguiled your point of reference, why do you keep returning to it? I put Descartes to death for doing the same thing. If I were you, I'd watch it.

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You are beyond beguiled. Are you taking any medications? I think you missed today's dose. They have these little reminder things to store them in now. Perhaps you should purchase one.
Am I a lesser man for expecting a better repartee from you than that poorly evolved thought?

Admitedly, it takes little to disappoint me, but this is a low point in my short posting career here!
Yes, you are a lesser man. Viagra should help. Buy the multi-compartmental model so you don't accidently go shopping with a hard-on.
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I have already beguiled your point of reference, why do you keep returning to it? I put Descartes to death for doing the same thing. If I were you, I'd watch it.
You have beguiled yourself. Your only hope for redemption is a healthy dose of self-mortification.

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