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There you go "undermining" the war effort again. For shame...

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Suicide bombers kill at least 33 in Iraq
25 die, dozens hurt in attack on Baghdad military recruiting center

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Updated: 9:32 a.m. ET July 10, 2005
BAGHDAD, Iraq - A man strapped with explosives blew himself up at an Iraqi military recruiting center in Baghdad as suicide bombers attacked three times in Iraq on Sunday, killing at least 33 people and breaking a relative lull in violence in recent days.

The attacks pushed the death count to over 1,500 people killed in violence since April 28, when Prime Minister Ibrahim al-Jaafari announced his Shiite- and Kurd-dominated government in a country under attack from an insurgency led by Iraq’s Sunni Arab minority.

At least 14 other people were killed in attacks elsewhere overnight and into Sunday, and the body of kidnapped Iraqi karate association chief Ali Shakir was found floating in the Tigris river southeast of Baghdad.

In the deadliest blast Sunday, a suicide bomber blew himself up at an Iraqi military recruiting center at Muthana airfield near central Baghdad, killing 25 people and wounding 47, according to the U.S. military and hospital officials.

The explosion occurred just before 9 a.m. as about 400 would-be recruits were crowded outside the gate of the center, which had been hit several times before by suicide attackers.

In February, a suicide bomber blew himself up in a crowd outside the recruiting center, killing 21 people and wounding 27.

The Iraqi Islamic Party — the country’s largest Sunni political party — denounced Sunday’s attack, saying “dozens of innocent Iraqis pay the price for these acts that we strongly condemn.�

In the northern city of Mosul, a suicide car bomber rammed into a police convoy carrying Brig. Gen. Salim Salih Meshaal, killing four policemen and wounding three, police said. Meshaal was not injured.

A suicide car bomb also exploded in Kirkuk, killing at least four civilians and wounding 15, police said. The attack occurred on a highway near a hospital and municipal building and the force of the blast toppled a few trees and shattered windows in surrounding buildings.

The bomber used a Mercedes Benz and the target appeared to be civilians because no military or police convoys were nearby, authorities said. Most of the casualties were people headed to Kirkuk General Hospital, police said. Three of the wounded were hospital employees.

U.S. troops also blew up a car parked nearby rigged with a bomb apparently intended to cause more casualties as security forces arrived at the scene of the first blast.

A third car bomb was found near the bus station in Kirkuk, 180 miles north of Baghdad, and authorities evacuated the area while police said they were looking for two other car bombs in the oil-rich city.
In the capital, a roadside bomb struck a U.S. military convoy of six Humvees in the southeastern al-Rashid district Sunday, wounding five soldiers, said Sgt. 1st Class David Abrams, a Task Force Baghdad spokesman. They were taken to a military hospital in stable condition.

Also Sunday, the U.S. military released an Iranian-American aspiring filmmaker who has been detained in Iraq for nearly two months, officials said.

Cyrus Kar, 44, was detained May 17 when potential bomb parts were found in a taxi in which he was riding. His family had filed a lawsuit accusing the federal government of violating his civil rights when it continued to hold him after the FBI cleared him of suspicion.


Other violence overnight and into Sunday killed at least 14 others in Iraq, including a Shiite family of eight killed in their sleep, a police colonel shot in Baghdad, two other policeman killed in the capital, a security official in Kirkuk and a civilian in Baghdad.

Masked gunmen also killed Ahmed Hassan, a member of the Kurdistan Democratic Party, in front of his home in Mosul, said Abdul Ghani Botani, a KDP spokesman in Mosul.

The prime minister, meanwhile, held a news conference to salve relations with Egypt after comments made by Iraq’s government spokesman that top Egyptian diplomat Ihab al-Sherif was likely on his way to meet with insurgents when he was abducted last week.

Witnesses have said al-Sherif was kidnapped while alone buying a newspaper in Baghdad a week ago. Al-Qaida in Iraq later claimed in a Web posting that it had killed the envoy.

“I don’t have any information that the late Ihab al-Sherif has conducted a dialogue or was involved in any dialogue or any meeting,� al-Jaafari said. “If what’s being reported about an official comment is related to me, then I’m categorically denying that.�

On Saturday, Egypt had demanded an explanation from Iraq.

Al-Sherif’s abduction and attacks against Pakistani and Bahraini envoys have sent shockwaves through the diplomatic community in Iraq and raised concerns about a possible exodus of diplomats, especially Arab delegations. But the king of neighboring Jordan said the country would not bow to fears and would send its ambassador to Iraq soon.

Shakir, the Iraqi karate association chief, was abducted Thursday in Latifiyah, about 20 miles south of Baghdad. His body was found with several gunshot wounds in the city of Kut the following day, police Capt. Muthana Khalid Ali said.

It was not known why Shakir, a 38-year-old former Iraq karate and judo champion, was taken. Hundreds of Iraqis have been abducted during the last two years — some by insurgents for political and sectarian reasons and some by criminal gangs for ransom.

The Associated Press and Reuters contributed to this report

Recall that earlier generations faced down fascism and communism not just with missiles and tanks, but with sturdy alliances and enduring convictions. They understood that our power alone cannot protect us, nor does it entitle us to do as we please. Instead, they knew that our power grows through its prudent use; our security emanates from the justness of our cause, the force of our example, the tempering qualities of humility and restraint.

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"The bomber used a Mercedes Benz."

Anyone hear from Shabah lately?

This puts me in the center of the Lefty/Righty teeter-totter but, being the world's police force is a very precarious position indeed. One could argue that if we were not occupying the region these bombings would not be taking place, even though they have for years and probably will for years to come. Although I would admit that we kicked the hornets nest.
Conversely, if these bombings were taking place and we stood idle we would be called unfeeling cowards, propagators of genocide, neutral wimps or worse even........Swiss.
I guarantee as soon as this addled ex-coke fiend is out of office and a new stooge is in place, they'll pull out of this war faster than J.F.K. from Marilyn Monroe.

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Why do they line in the hundreds each day
At these locations.
Iraqi military recruiting center in Baghdad.
Iraqi military recruiting center at Muthana.
The only people these bombers seem to detour is
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Why do they line in the hundreds each day
At these locations.
Iraqi military recruiting center in Baghdad.
Iraqi military recruiting center at Muthana.
The only people these bombers seem to detour is
Are the poster here.
Is that a Haiku or something?

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Why do they line in the hundreds each day
At these locations.
Iraqi military recruiting center in Baghdad.
Iraqi military recruiting center at Muthana.
The only people these bombers seem to detour is
Are the poster here.
Is that a Haiku or something?
though it is unrhymed,
Too many lines (limit 3)
too many syllables per line (limit 5, 7, 5, respectively)

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Why do they line in the hundreds each day
At these locations.
Iraqi military recruiting center in Baghdad.
Iraqi military recruiting center at Muthana.
The only people these bombers seem to detour is
Are the poster here.
Is that a Haiku or something?
Oh shit,thought I was a camel trader there
for a second.
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"The bomber used a Mercedes Benz."

Anyone hear from Shabah lately?

This puts me in the center of the Lefty/Righty teeter-totter but, being the world's police force is a very precarious position indeed. One could argue that if we were not occupying the region these bombings would not be taking place, even though they have for years and probably will for years to come. Although I would admit that we kicked the hornets nest.
Conversely, if these bombings were taking place and we stood idle we would be called unfeeling cowards, propagators of genocide, neutral wimps or worse even........Swiss.
I guarantee as soon as this addled ex-coke fiend is out of office and a new stooge is in place, they'll pull out of this war faster than J.F.K. from Marilyn Monroe.
That looks like w126. Blue is nice color, what a shame.
The way it is ripped like a can of sardine from the hood area tells me that the bomb was in the passenger/driver. What a waist.
I would hate to be the doctor removing embedded control arms and ball joints. What a mess.
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"The bomber used a Mercedes Benz."

Anyone hear from Shabah lately?

This puts me in the center of the Lefty/Righty teeter-totter but, being the world's police force is a very precarious position indeed. One could argue that if we were not occupying the region these bombings would not be taking place, even though they have for years and probably will for years to come. Although I would admit that we kicked the hornets nest.
Conversely, if these bombings were taking place and we stood idle we would be called unfeeling cowards, propagators of genocide, neutral wimps or worse even........Swiss.
I guarantee as soon as this addled ex-coke fiend is out of office and a new stooge is in place, they'll pull out of this war faster than J.F.K. from Marilyn Monroe.
That looks like w126. Blue is nice color, what a shame.
The way it is ripped like a can of sardine from the hood area tells me that the bomb was in the passenger/driver. What a waist.
I would hate to be the doctor removing embedded control arms and ball joints. What a mess.
Well, of all cars why a mercedes benz?[:D]The bomber could have use a Toyota or Something.Another W126 is gone...
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Why do they line in the hundreds each day
At these locations.
Iraqi military recruiting center in Baghdad.
Iraqi military recruiting center at Muthana.
The only people these bombers seem to detour is
Are the poster here.
Ah, because they are starving so bad ? because there are no other jobs? Because they are Shiites, itching to jackboot the Sunnis back? because a police officer in iraq can make a ton of money being corrupt? because they can pick up a few paychecks and then desert, the current main complaint of the US Army? so they can spy for the insurgents? You need any more reasons? Tell me, why does it take "two years" (for the last three years, we have been told they will be trained in two years) to train them, when the US Army could whip out a combat soldier in 90 days back in WWII and Korea? Six weeks in Vietnam? let me know when you've got 140,000 of the cowardly bastards willing to die for their own fucking country. Currently all the ones willing to die for their own country seem to be blowing us up.

Recall that earlier generations faced down fascism and communism not just with missiles and tanks, but with sturdy alliances and enduring convictions. They understood that our power alone cannot protect us, nor does it entitle us to do as we please. Instead, they knew that our power grows through its prudent use; our security emanates from the justness of our cause, the force of our example, the tempering qualities of humility and restraint.

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