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Like most people, I try to choose the "lesser of two evils". In the recent past that choice was clearly Bush and his party as the liberals were showing signs of wanting to make even greater grabs of power.
Interesting that you see an architect of mass murder as the lesser of two evils. You see, this is where we differ -- I think mass murder is a bad thing...
Yes, that is a strange thing to say considering Bush was already in power, and busy abusing it. The lesser of two evils was clearly Kerry. At least he would have had to tear down some of Bush's establishment, and the rise to absolute power would be slowed.

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Not to mention that if MS had wanted divided government, Kerry was obviously the choice, to put a brake on what is essentially an out of control Congress that spends money like drunken sailors - and I apolgize for insulting drunken sailors with this comparison. Bush and the Congress have made a pact with the devil - he signs their insane pork laden spending bills while they rubber stamp his New Fascist State. If you really believe in what you are saying, you will get a chance to help stop this madness in 2006 by voting for the democrats.

Recall that earlier generations faced down fascism and communism not just with missiles and tanks, but with sturdy alliances and enduring convictions. They understood that our power alone cannot protect us, nor does it entitle us to do as we please. Instead, they knew that our power grows through its prudent use; our security emanates from the justness of our cause, the force of our example, the tempering qualities of humility and restraint.

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As GW hands over the reins to the newly elected president in January 2009, I can hear him now as he surveys the enormous financial wealth accumulated by all of the friends and family of his administration: "mission accomplished".

"If spending money you don't have is the height of stupidity, borrowing money to give it away is the height of insanity." -- anon
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Only if the democrats can nominate a candidate not from the loony left fringe of the party. With moveon.org now running the party ( or nearly so) I doubt that they can nominate anyone who might be a centrist.
You guys seem to totally dismiss the threat from the left--you see only Bush as the threat. You are blinded by your partisanship.
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Perhaps, but then there are people like me -- people who are not lefties, who are not Democrats -- people who are apparently "blinded" by mass murder and the inroads of fascism. Am I just an anomaly or is there another explanation?

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Kerry was (and is) not from the loony left fringes of his party--that's rhetorical sophistry. He is clearly a centrist, cut from the same DLC cloth as Gore, Clinton, Bayh, et al, which is why I wouldn't/couldn't vote for him or his ilk. Despite some correlations, partisan labels do almost nothing to define a candidate's political postions and true beliefs.
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Well folks under the new movement that I hereby declare and will in fact be the staple approach to this movement, I introduce to you all: RepuBushCon!
No need to refer to the present junta as Nazis or any other movement as this new movement is an entity of its own albeit with deep influence in motion from the former.
Repubushcon will reshape and is in the process of instilling perpetual policies to ensure its monopolistic ascension to the reign.
At this moment, with the present attitude of the populace and its acceptance of relinquishing all of its rights to think, to voice concern or to listen, Repubushconism will always fill the void to simplify and offer proper interpretation of its actions. There shall be no descent or skepticism acceptable under this movement as labels such as “freedom hater�, “f&%$ liberal�, “traitor� will apply and eventual imprisonment, extradition, exile (if you are lucky) and transfer to the next friendly torture practicing state will be in order.
That said, I Shabah rest and wait for the usual insults to cometh:
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Kerry was (and is) not from the loony left fringes of his party--that's rhetorical sophistry. He is clearly a centrist, cut from the same DLC cloth as Gore, Clinton, Bayh, et al, which is why I wouldn't/couldn't vote for him or his ilk. Despite some correlations, partisan labels do almost nothing to define a candidate's political postions and true beliefs.
Well said. But isn't some movement in the right direction better than none at all (voting Democratic)? I do not want to waste my vote on someone who has no real chance. Sad state of affairs that one has to do this, but at this point (fairly crucial) I will take anything I can get to curb this "NAZI" attack on the American populace and values using media-fear/propaganda.

The use of the word "NAZI" is not too extreme. It is a necessary balance to curb check the intolerant right wingers who are manipulating this country into a second world status (except the military).
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I don't begrudge anyone for exercizing their franchise as they see fit, and in fact I not-so-secretly hoped the other Skull n' Bones twin would've won the contest.

I view the Dems as the party of 2 steps forward and three steps back, while the Reps are just 2 steps straight back--seems a bit defeatist to vote to move your country backwards, whether it's 1 or 2 steps. We can blame the Bush junta for the fix we're in, but they had plenty of assists and "atta-boys" from an all-to-acquiescent Democrat Party. I don't vote to support that kind of malfeasance.
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How can you say that Kerry was a centrist??!
His voting record was (I think I remember) second most liberal of all during his term.

If thats your idea of centist, you guarantee another republican.
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