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Turning into Big bros State

A few days ago I responded to Alfa and mentioned that he needed to be careful visiting his local library. Well here is an article just for him:
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Here below is the post in question just to put things in context:


Alfa - 6/16/2005 1:17 PM

O.K. please explain to this country hick who you think, knows nothing of these people or combat situations, how these people were treated.
And how you suppose they came to be combat detainees.


Most of the detainees in Gitmo were apprehended in Afghanistan while the US waged war against the Taliban that was a de facto ruler of that country (they were a bunch of wakos religious zealots so I am not defending them). This was a declared war so that means any prisoner should have fallen under the prisoner of war rules. The US decided in all of its wisdom to bypass that in an attempt to gain leverage through torture and mistreatment. The idea was, if they were protected by the Geneva Convention the US may never gain intelligence on the whereabouts of Ousama Ben Laden and the other clowns. Someone in the executive branch of the US government managed to sell the idea of “enemy combatant� with of course consultation from the Justice Department to basically support the idea so it will never end in the US Supreme Court for a challenge. The time was also ripe to play this trick on the US population since they were fuming from the aftermath of 911. At that time any action by the government was considered the right thing to do because no one dared stand up to the insanity. Some people played the patriotic card whenever someone even attempted to open the can of worms. Liberal and anti American labels abounded in that atmosphere. Not many wanted their political careers smeared for taking up what seemed to be acceptable by then.
Since the detainees were isolated and were unfortunately guarded by people under the influence of false patriotism they ended up being abused. It is that simple. The average Joe in the US is not very sophisticated, he will settle for a two dimensional view of the world. Any further exploration will give him a headache and he would want more beer to drown the “bad thoughts�. So he prefers to drink anyway and leave the thinking to the people that will take care of him when he retires since they are doing such a darn good job.

I wanted to add an example of where this is all leading: http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/americas/4098886.stm
So next time Alfa, when you go o the library to educate yourself about who you are fighting, you may end up in Gitmo yourself for having been influenced by the evildoers.
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