.....what would you have concluded? (Be warned! - this post is going to bluntly discuss some of the most heinous crimes we can imagine).
Despite all the TV court reporting idiots, I believe the prosecution has made a strong circumstantial case, where even though there is a lack of strong eye witness testimony, any person can reasonably conclude exactly what Mr. Jackson was up to and his modus operandi.
The first hurdle Mr. Jackson had to overcome, was to procure a victim. It is in how that was accomplished, that I personally have been totally amazed that there is no law, at least not in CA, against either asking or consenting to allowing a child to sleep with someone not of his own immediate family. Now, I'm no fool - as a child I found no better place to crash than between grandma and grandpa when I was away from home or in my dad's sleeping bag on pre-adolescent childhood camping trips, and as a father, I know that one good thunderstorm will result in the entire bed crawling with the little critters, (usually right about the time you think mom is going to go for your moves), but the idea of someone else's kid sleeping in my bed is incomprehensible to me, and even more incomprehensible is the idea that some grown man would ask me to allow one of my sons to sleep in his bed. I can see why there would be no law on this for family members, but I am amazed that a person can legally pimp his kid to a stranger or attempt to procure one for his bed. Amazed. Absolutely freaking amazed that this is legal. But even if it is legal, I do know this:
If a grown man came up and asked me if my kid could sleep with him, my response (could I get a show of hands here) would be to either call the police if I was feeling chartible, or beat the motherfucking pervert into a coma with a car antenna, just for assuming he could ask me a question like that, nevermind the fact because any normal father confronted with a person who is attempting to molest one of his kids is seized with an indescrible insanity that only other fathers know of what I speak that opens the possibility of unspeakable violence, no matter what the consequences, on a person he percieves is attempting to molest one of his children. And if I found out he had actually done such a thing, I myself would have a hard time not killing the bastard. I really, really do not think I am unique in this - this is what a normal person would do. Men are returned to cave man level in a situation like that. A molester must know this as well as anybody, so to pull it off without ending up on the wrong end of a feeding tube has got to take cunning and guile.
If I was on the jury, the only conclusion I would be able to reach is that selecting people who would be willing to allow this, like fame-hungry greedy scumbags like Culkin's parents, or total nut cases like the mother who has made a spectacle of herself on the stand - just ferreting these people out is an act of pedophilia. A grown man would not risk the wrath of a car antenna unless he had minimized his risks, and he was willing to take a risk because he wanted something very,very badly. Once one accepts that, no matter how the defense try to spin it with their Peter Pan tripe, it becomes easy to see how the rest of it works. After the procurement, then comes the alcohol, probably a technique developed because his earlier awake act got him in so much trouble. What adult does not know this: Getting any child to drink a glass of wine or even a single beer, is going to result in a child in a very, very deep sleep, and the motive for desiring this result is to get a child that MJ can fellatio and rub his woody on and get away with it, as long as he doesn't engage in actual penetration.
What other reasonable conclusion can a person draw? The prosecution introduced witnesses to the fact MJ was sued for performing oral sex on a minor, and a witness who claimed she had seen him do the same to another child wannabe star, now grown, who denied it happened, so we can reasonably assume that the goal of MJ's perversion was an oral sexual assault on a minor, and one can then easily see that the evidence shows that the most likely conclusion is the assumption is more than assumptionn - it is a fact that is exactly what this guy is doing. I cannot help but believe that any person on the jury would not conclude the same thing. I guess my question here is, if you are a man, would you reach for a car antenna or is there any circumstance were this could be innocent, and if you are a women, (and Mr. Jackson seemed to specialize in families were it was women who gave permission for this) is there any reason a women would feel differently about this as a man? And do you think I am correct in my guess of what the average juror is going to conclude here?
Well put K.It would appear that the length of time the jury has been out reflects some tricky moral and legal issues which they need to get clarified,considering that a unanimous decision is required in California.
My conclusion is that there is far too much smoke not to suspect the source is a fire at some time or place,but the prosecution has been severely damaged by such a poor bunch of witnesses.And if i were on the jury,despite being a father of three myself and relating exactly to your 'beat the crap...'scenario,i think i would be left feeling that the guy is very sick and deserves treatment more than a mandatory 20 stretch.
Taking eveything into consideration,including what we know of the jurors,i think they will find him guilty of the lesser charge (despite what they may have actually concluded from the evidence) so that he receives a short sharp reality check,and perhaps some recommedation or provision that he undergoes supervised therapy for the broader issues.
Btw, why radio antenna as opposed to baseball bat??
micheal jackson should seriously come to saudi arabia.. he would be able to sleep with any many kids he wants and there will be no law chasig him or dragging him to courts..hehe
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RE: If you were on the Michael Jackson jury.....
.........I would lose my business due to the length of the trial BUT, get a book deal and score big time, do the circuit, and live the high life. It would all come crashing down after a covertly placed Rooffy in my Long Island Ice Tea and waking up to Pat O'Brien pounding my ass and whispering dirty things in my ear.
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I don't understand why it's takeing them so long to make a decesion on the case. It's quite clear he did it, and has been doing it for a long time. He is a sick, sick man. I hope they will give him life, or even better hang him for doing that to a child. I still think the only reason he had his own children was so there would be no other parents involved to tell once he did it to them. I think they need to rope him, tie him to the back of a car and drag him down the interstate. Had this been my child this happen to, I would have save lots of tax dollars had I found out. Just sickening.
Jessie from all people, I thought you will be more rational and not jump to judgment until a verdict is in. He is not guilty until proven so or in this case once the jury finds him liable.
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We cant lose sight of the fact that whatever he has done,he has been aided and abetted by the parents of his victims.Apparently it finally took Sneddon to blow the whistle about a middle aged man sharing a bed with other peolples children,whereas the parents sanctioned it.
With sick individuals,surely our aim should be to protect society from them and treat their illness rather than just punish them.
In the UK we abolished the death penalty around about the same time we stopped jailing men for sodomy.We like to think that represents enlightenment and progress.
Yeah, this is the same country that was able to produce a jury that believes that there's another person wandering around LA with OJ's exact same DNA! Whether or not he's guilty as charged (not being a juror and trying to avoid the copious news coverage when I can I'm not a good judge), I think it's pretty clear that he's guilty of being pretty screwed up and any parent who allows their children to play with "Uncle Jacko" should probably have their heads examined.
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